Thread: Djokovic

These examples do not seem to be relevant to the case in question. In this case we have a foreign national who does not meet the normal requirements for the temporary work visa he wants, which requires vaccination, which he does not want to get. He has been granted a visa using a type of exemption that does not apply to that class of visa, on arrival his proof of that exemption is compared to the rules for the visa, and the visa was cancelled as the exemption is not valid for that visa. The court has reversed that decision on the grounds of failure to follow proper procedures.

This is a very different situation to applying for residency.

In 1986 the then Treasurer (later Prime Minister) Paul Keating observed that Australia was at risk of becoming a 'banana republic', how prescient of him. This latest fiasco playing out on the international stage is enough to make one think Paul Keating was a man before his time. Closely following on the heels of Australia's incompetently handled 'nuclear submarine' international embarrassment one has to wonder.

Firstly I wonder if Australia actually has a foreign minister or for that matter an Immigration Minister. It seems both are 'Missing In Action' leaving the current Prime Minister to 'have a crack' and make a fool of himself on the International stage (again).

It wasn't all that long ago that 'The Balkans', (including Serbia) was considered a conglomeration of 'banana republics' enduring centuries long internecine hatreds and destruction and with no clear ability or will to rise above it. Perhaps Serbia has finally matured and in doing so has passed the 'banana republic' mantle to us Aussies ?

IMO there is no doubt that a rich and influential foreign celebrity has 'pulled a fast one' on Australia but it's us Aussies at fault for allowing it to happen. Mr Djokovic and his liars, err..... lawyers, will be laughing all the way to the bank.

It's enough to make you throw up ...................................

Deano

Originally Posted by jonesfam

Really? It cost $20K just to get a visa to live in Australia?
Some folk must really want to be here.

As for photos together & joint bills etc, SWMBO & I have been married for 39 years & have about 4 photos of the 2 of us, funnily, because one of us is usually taking said photo. Our daughter may have more?
As for the bills side of stuff almost all our personal bills are in my name only, SWMBO just doesn't see the need to do that jointly, though we do have joint home loans & bank accounts.
Just seems silly.
Jonesfam
PS aA little while ago I had to get 100 points of identity, that was a struggle.

I've lived in Australia for 44 years but I'm struggling to get Citizenship due to not being able to prove who I am. Despite 30 years of tax history, Visas, Permanent residency certificates, etc I have yet to meet the criteria for proof of who I am so I just stopped trying. Given that some of the info they want is only available from a deceased person (my Father) short of getting the Ouija Board out I'm sort of stumped. They've asked for his Passport - which I supplied and got 'That's not valid'- 'I know that, he's dead'. 'Can you put him on the phone so we can chat with him'... It's a real life episode of Utopia - except for the 40 minute wait times each time I have to call them to inch the application forward. The problem is the system - it only recognise data from 1981 onwards when they started digitising records. My proof is all from before that and due to Covid you can't get an in person appointments to sort through it, so it's basically stiff bickies - no real drama for me - I can continue of as a Pom like I have all my life, but at some point I'll give it another whirl when I have the internal strength and fortitude to pit myself against the system again.

Originally Posted by BradC

We didn’t game the system, but we were advised by immigration when we applied for my (now) wife’s defacto spouse visa of what they’d like to see. One of those things was a joint bank account, so we opened one. Spent 6 months putting together a full lever-arch file of all the things they wanted and submitted the application and went fo the interview. “Don’t call us, we’ll call you sometime in the next 9 months”. 3 business days later we had the visa. Knock me down with a feather.

Musta been lucky I guess.

Lucky indeed, for my skilled visa app in Sth Africa it was 18 months from the don't call us, we'll call you interview!

Be interesting to measure his blood now for covid antibodies........

Originally Posted by jonesfam

Really? It cost $20K just to get a visa to live in Australia?
.....

I think it depends on 'who you are'.

I know of other truck drivers that have more than $60K invested in trying to live a better life .. far from war torn regions!

But, if you were from a specific country(which shall remain nameless ) and have 'half a million to invest' in this country, which basically means adding to the current situation of housing price increases, your VISA is a forgone conclusion.
You get permanent residency in quick time!
Then you go of back to your preferred country of residency for 5 years, and live cheaply, while your investment sits idle and produces zero net advantage to the country!

So governments create stupid conditions like vacancy taxes, which get bypassed like they mean nothing .. and this then adds to the cost of housing by way of rental pressure. Less houses for rent -> higher rent prices!

More than 90% of city apartments are foreign owned, and 90% of them are most likely vacant. Oh and don't bother applying to lease one .. now that 'I know' .. I know it's futile.

What's been happening lately: been nameless applicants have been applying to rent an apartment in/near the city. More than once now .. applied for apartments at X dollars per week, and get rejected. Now tho, the application is in the system. Agent has it, owners have it. It's some silly online system where you apply with your details once and your details are then submitted to every spammer in the known universe!

So what happens is after rejection, and to maintain the illusion that these 'foreign investors' are actively trying to lease their 'investment' .. the apartment is advertised for lease again .. only X-10 dollars per week!

Why? Applicant gets rejected at X dollars per week, so both owners and agent know full well they have an ready and willing sucker to pay X dollars, but these generous philanthropic humanitarian types would prefer to remain generous and accept a lower rate of return from their investment .. no matter that the applicant twigged the memory of the agent that they were willing to pay the higher amount.
If this happened just once, it'd make sense .. applicant is not suitable for some strange reason.
When it happens multiple times, applicant becomes suspicious of what's really going on behind the governments backs with respect to their stupid rules and regulations!

Now, those foreign investors wouldn't be attempting to subvert the laws of the land would they .. of course not!

Because I have a vested interest in seeing a couple of particular applicants, successfully lease an apartment in the city area .. I have been collating a list of the investments that these generous investor types own, for the purpose of somehow locating a government department that rewards these good Samaritans.

So no! It doesn't cost $20K for every foreigner to live in this country. For the well heeled, it costs a lot less over the long term.

IIRC the $500 000 applies from any country.

If anyone is interested in a factual account, then I suggest finding a channel called Discernable, and find this: How Novak Djokovic Defeated the Australian Government

I cannot provide a link for obvious reasons.