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The dogs will get the blame and that is a shame. I just don;t see the need to keep 6 hunting dogs in a suberban area. And the parants of the child well why was a child of 4 by herself early mornin, Many questions but we seem to relive this tale way to much.
Very sad, All of those involved will have to live with this for the rest of there life. I feel for all of them.
It was not my intention to start a very ugly debate. Just a statement that this happens to offen. When will we all learn.
glen
I have had just about enough of the ravings of people when something goes wrong.
So far everyone I have spoken to or read from has criticized the owners of the dogs for having hunting dogs in a town enviroment (sounds all too familiar for my likings) wasn't so long ago someone named Scruby was doing it to 4wd owners in the cities.
As the father of 2 boys aged 4yrs & 9mths, I hope I never have to dis-pleasure of experiencing the pain that the families involved are feeling now.
Society seems hell bent on blanket judgement of anything that causes harm to anyone. I'm sure that if more people died from splinters that would spell the end for carpenters and wood cutters.
I saw the remains of a guy who played one on one with a semi trailer ( without his car), needless to say the guy lost. The accident closed the F3 south bound for the remaineder of the day. News reported? None, besides a few traffic up dates on the radio telling you to avoid the area so as not to be inconvenienced. Yet are we hearing about how wacked the truckie was? or How the guy was experiencing depression related to a seperation?. Nope nothing just a normal day at the office why? because where not trying to prohibit any of those things.
Yet if a dog bites anyone or someone bumps into someone with there 4wd vehile regardless of its size, well blow me down if it doesn't make a headline.
My step sister was the victim of a dog attack when she was 5 (she's now 28) dog was destroyed and she received compensation to help with facial reconstruction (and if you saw my step sister before the attack, trust me She needed all the recontruction money could buy:twisted: ). But seriously the first question I remember the cop saying to the old girl back the was where the **** where you!!!
People need to become more responsible about their own children and less relient on the courts to assist in compensation for their
irresponsibility’s and then maybe the world will be a safer place. You need a licence for just about everything these days yet any **** can have a kid.
Instead of chasing the **** end of the problem start at the head, lock the parents up for child neglection. Damm sure if the parents had been in charge of a boat and the kid fell off because they weren't paying attention and drowned there would be charges laid aganst them.
Can't see any difference children are a responsibility "YOURS". Your kids, Your responsible!!!. Don't want to be held accoutable for your inactions watch your friggin kids or don't have them.
Sure accidents will inevitably happen thats why they are called accidents. But if the powers that be can prove the parents didn't do everything humanly possible to prevent it why blame someone else.
Soap box anyone!!
I've never seen a 4wd maul a child to death.
How the death occurs is not the issue the issue is another child is dead. Just because one appears more vicious then the other is irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by discoute
My point is how quick people are to cast judgement on a majority for the actions of a minority, i.e. in the same way 4wd owners are seen to be bad drivers just becasue we own and drive 4wd's.
That being the case would you see it fair that all 4wd's are banned. I for one wouldn't. I believe that governments are to quick to ban and outlaw things without giving credit to the average joe who actually is responsible enough to use/have what every the item in question is. I don't believe for one minute that everyone who owns a hunting dog is dumb enough not to secure their yard properly. I do however think that there are more stupid parents then stupid dog owners/4wd owners/ and firearms owners. Maybe the answer is to outlaw stupid parents or just their kids.
I have a trained Border collie of 8 years, but I will not let my 3yr old play with her unsupervised, I know in my heart she is fine with her but it is my parental responsibilty to supervise..where was the girls parents? well they paid the ultimate penalty the loss of a child.my heart goes out to them but I do suffer a little anger towards their slackness:mad:
Beyond imagining:mad:
There is a saying:
"Scratch a dog and you'll find a wolf"
We have a small, old jack russell terrier as a pet.
Still bites me, the missus AND kids if we put our hands or feet near his feed bowl at feed time. We have all been snapped or bitten and I don't blame him.
The rest of the time he is on the wifes or kids laps in front of the tv.
When the kids were little they used to poke, pinch tweak and whack him, nothing more than a lick as response.
Go near his feed bowl at feed time and you're on your own.
Should I have him put down? or train the kids about doggy behaviour?
I still have the dog!
Prayers for the family of the little girl.:(
Ralph
I agree that there should be no need to keep six hunting dogs in a town area, and I'm not a fan of pig hunting either, but the dogs appear to have been properly secured.Quote:
Originally Posted by discoute
Just correcting your time - the girl was found at 7.30pm when the house owner came home - the 3am was when she died. Nobody seems to know just when the attack happened.
While the primary blame here would appear to be on the failure of the parents to supervise the child, we have to realise that some children are adept at escaping supervision, although if they were looking for her at the time surely it would have been mentioned! (My No.1 for example at that age).
John
If I let my 4 year old child wander a block down the road at 7.30 at night and she came to grief, whether it be by falling into a dam, getting run over, mauled by a dog whatever, there would be no one to blame but myself.
There are lots of dangers out there when you're 4 years old and wandering the streets alone. I'm not pointing a finger at a grieving parent/guardian - theres no need to, but lay off the dogs and the owner who was responsible enough to have them locked away on private property.
Well it's a complex issue, that's certain.
There's no reason people shouldn't keep hunting dogs in a suburban area BUT they have to realise that if you train a dog to kill, then it WILL kill, given the chance.
If the girl wandered into their yard the the reaction of the dogs is understandable HOWEVER the owner should have mitigated this risk by ensuring that not only could the dogs not escape but also that no child could easily gain access to the dogs. After all, pool owners have to fence their pool it amounts to the same thing.