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    Outback Way - additional bitumen

    The Federal Government is providing $678 million in funding to seal an additional 1000 km of the Outback Way, a series of roads and dirt tracks that pass through Queensland, the Northern Territory and Western Australia
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    I'll lay money this will increase the amount of roadside litter tenfold.

    What do you think?

    - Would it be better for communities out there?

    - Would more 2WD vehicles visit?

    - Pros/Cons?

    - Will it achieve the aims laid out in the media release (full text from the Prime Minister's webpage below).

    Y'know it's almost as if there might be an election around the corner.

    The Morrison-Joyce Government will invest an additional $678 million to seal another 1,000 kilometres of road and deliver further upgrades along Australia’s longest shortcut, Outback Way, creating thousands of jobs and better connecting regional industries and communities.
    As part of the works, the remaining unsealed and substandard sections of Outback Way in Queensland and Western Australia will be sealed. Additional priority sections on the Plenty Highway and Tjukaruru Road in the Northern Territory will also be upgraded.
    The Government is committed to sealing the entire 2,720 kilometres of Outback Way and today’s funding commitment will help get the job done, cutting travel times for freight and tourists while giving residents along the route improved access to the supplies they need to live.
    Prime Minister Scott Morrison said the upgrades would support 2,197 jobs, and deliver an important economic boost across Australia’s centre.
    “Our additional investment of $678 million in Outback Way is part of our plan for a strong economy across Queensland, the Northern Territory and Western Australia,” the Prime Minister said.
    “Investing in infrastructure right across Australia will keep our economy strong and growing while ensuring Australians, regardless of where they live, have jobs.
    “Our investment locks in a pipeline of works that will drive investment in regional Australia and boost economies from Winton in Queensland to Laverton in Western Australia, helping regional and remote communities and those who call them home to grow and prosper.”
    Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Infrastructure, Transport and Regional Development Barnaby Joyce said the Government was delivering on its commitment to seal the entire length of Outback Way.
    “The Nationals and Liberals had the vision to start these upgrades and we are driving ahead with the sealing of the third road that runs east to west across our nation, from Winton to Laverton,” the Deputy Prime Minister said.
    “Outback Way is a vital piece of national transport infrastructure that supports regional economies the length of the 2,720 kilometre route and connects them to the rest of Australia.
    “This additional funding builds on the $330 million we’ve invested since 2013 to seal over 600 kilometres of Outback Way, giving freight, tourists and locals a smoother, safer drive.
    “$124 million will be spent on upgrades in the Northern Territory alone, creating 442 jobs for locals and delivering a much-needed economic injection in the Territory.
    “These upgrades will spark new opportunities for industries along the route, including the critical earth precincts north of Alice Springs, the gold precincts around Laverton and the massive beef industry, while ensuring communities and people on the corridor have better access to supplies.”
    Federal Member for Maranoa David Littleproud said $154 million would be invested in the Queensland section of Outback Way, creating 671 jobs across the state and driving economic growth.
    “Sealing and upgrading Outback Way will reduce the long and unreliable travel times that freight and motorists experience along sections of the route,” Minister Littleproud said.
    “The upgrades will also drive economic growth in remote communities, bring more tourists, improve connections between people, jobs and services, and goods with markets.”
    Senator for Queensland and Special Envoy for Northern Australia Susan McDonald said mining and agriculture businesses would benefit from the Government’s investment in in western Queensland.
    “$41.5 million of this funding will go towards progressively sealing the remaining unsealed sections of the Donohue Highway in Queensland, to improve safety and efficiency,” Senator McDonald said.
    “Solely-funded by the Australian Government, the Donohue Highway sealing works will support around 124 jobs during construction, providing a major boost to the local economy.”
    Federal Member for O’Connor Rick Wilson said the Federal Government had put $400 million on the table to seal the full length of Outback Way in Western Australia.
    “This funding commitment will create 1,084 jobs in Western Australia, delivering a significant boost to our regional and remote towns,” Mr Wilson said.
    “A sealed route will also deliver social benefits for communities by improving access to goods and services and increased employment opportunities, particularly for Indigenous communities.”
    The Government’s additional funding for Outback Way means upgrades can continue to be rolled out as previously funded works are completed.
    The Australian Government’s funding commitment represents 80 per cent of the total funding package, with state and territory governments providing the remaining 20 per cent.

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    I will give you our experience in the Gulf Country.
    When we first came to Doomadgee, 1993, all roads in the district were dirt. This was until you got to Burke & Wills Roadhouse then it was single lane to Cloncurry.
    In the late 90's they started laying bitumen, first from B&W to Gregory (mainly for the Century Mine) then they started extending it West until finally about 5 years ago it was all paved to Doomadgee & Burketown.

    Before the bitumen it was a slow rough trip, depending on the last grading it could be a 7-9 hour trip to Cloncurry during the Dry & the road bashed your car to death over a period of time. In the wet the roads closed for months, washouts everywhere & most of the time just to hairy to make the trip worth trying. Even a decent storm could/would stop you for hours.

    Now it is all sealed it is 5 hours to Cloncurry, the trip is far less stressful & any 2WD can do it fine. Yes, during the Wet we still get cut off but for weeks not months (someday they might build some bridges?) & although some folk still don't know how to drive out here it is a lot safer.
    This is not to mention the upgrades to already sealed roads like Cloncurry to NT boarder, Cloncurry to Karumba.

    Do I miss the dirt roads? Sort of, every trip was an adventure & sort of exciting. But, now is far easier, cheaper, we are not cut off as long & people do not need a 4WD which is less expensive for them.
    Tourist will still buy their Land Cruisers & huge vans & they will still come & for the communities it has huge advantages in lots of ways.
    The "Old Bush" has been declining for decades & will continue to do so, is this a bad thing? In some ways yes but in a lot of ways NO!
    Living out here still has it challenges but is safer, more comfortable & the services are so much better than even 10 years ago. Visiting the Outback is one thing, living here is entirely different.
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    It will generally benefit everyone.

    you will not need a 4wd vehicle to see a lot of outback Australia.

    I'm an old bastard from the bush and kind of feel for the old way.

    Older bastards and pioneers I have known are dying and younger families are moving into a much user friendly climate.

    The old bastards and their families did it hard but there is no need to any more.

    NSW now have bitumen access north-south-east-west on 7 major arteries across the state.

    this outback way sealing may lead to population distribution across the centre.....if global warming doesn't get too high.

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    I'm mainly concerned for the likes of the Sandy Blight Junction Road and the closer areas of the Gunbarrel Hwy, that are going to be trashed by easy access directly off a sealed road. 1000km of gravel ATM just to get to the start of them tends to keep usage at manageable levels....

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesfam View Post

    Living out here still has it challenges but is safer, more comfortable & the services are so much better than even 10 years ago.

    Visiting the Outback is one thing, living here is entirely different.

    Jonesfam

    Exactly. Locals' interests should come first.
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    Sealing the roads is much better than having good dirt roads.

    The better the dirt road,the faster the tourists go,and the more accidents occur.

    I appreciate people want growth,advancement,sealed roads,etc.

    For me i prefer the dirt all day,less people,less rubbish,less riff raff,less traffic.
    Less road kills.

    But anyway,thats just me

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    They have to get voted back in first. Another desperate effort to win some votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    Sealing the roads is much better than having good dirt roads.

    The better the dirt road,the faster the tourists go,and the more accidents occur.

    I appreciate people want growth,advancement,sealed roads,etc.

    For me i prefer the dirt all day,less people,less rubbish,less riff raff,less traffic.
    Less road kills.

    But anyway,thats just me
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Nah, a bit of dirt never stopped me,
    What about mud?
    Just been watching Steve Graeme(or whatever his name is),on outback Truckers

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    It has been my observation that as the roads improove the behaviour of those that travel it declines unfortunately and the destinations that once took a bit of effort to get to tend to get trashed as the roads improove.
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