Power prices, gas prices- ouch or Solar perhaps?

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

We're trying a different way to heat water, which may also lower our power bill.
We have just installed a power diverter which reads our solar production and household demand.
So all our hot water will be heated using surplus solar generated during the day, above what is needed to run the house, since you don't get much for putting it back into the grid.
So that's 6.8Kw of solar panels running a house and heating a 250 litre Rheem stainless steel tank.
Early days yet but so far there is plenty of hot water.
If it doesn't heat, maybe because of multiple overcast days, there is an override button to use grid power to heat the water, but hopefully we'll never need it.
We do have a separate off-peak circuit to operate after 10pm, but why would we pay to heat water if we can get it free from solar?
So the next bill could be interesting.

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I have similar, its called a Catch Power green relay, same thing, locally made, has functions for off peak etc too.
We sell and install quite a few of these through work.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...fafd0dcfd0.jpg

Looks good. Our local solar guy says he is installing an increasing number of power diverters.
He is still advising against installing batteries, which is interesting as he could probably make good bucks from household batteries.
But he is advising that panels are cheap, so just fit more and maximise daytime use of free solar in the house, rather than sending it to the grid.
It costs 3-4 times more to draw power from the grid than we get for sending our surplus power to the grid, so why do it?

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Originally Posted by Vern

I have similar, its called a Catch Power green relay, same thing, locally made, has functions for off peak etc too.
We sell and install quite a few of these through work.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...fafd0dcfd0.jpg

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I think the sales snow job V real and reliable is a issue in any business.

Calls for better consumer protections intensify as complaints over shoddy solar panels soar

Buyer beware Caveat emptor [bigwhistle]Some of the phone calls I have had from sales people make me both laugh and cringe.

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

I think the sales snow job V real and reliable is a issue in any business.

Calls for better consumer protections intensify as complaints over shoddy solar panels soar

Buyer beware Caveat emptor [bigwhistle]Some of the phone calls I have had from sales people make me both laugh and cringe.

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The CEC already do what Plug In plans on doing. The hoops, we as solar installers have to jump through is unbelievable compared to the Electrical industry.
The installers around be providing all relevant information to the consumer already.
Shoddy panels should fall back on the CEC for approving them for use under the STC approved products register.
As for Shoddy installers, IMHO all installations should be inspected by an electrical inspector in each state lime they do in Victoria.
These installers are still around because people buy their systems based on price and not reputation.
My tip is don't buy a system off a cold caller or a mob that has cricketers doing their adds!
We now refuse to do any service work for any of these companies as there is to many issues, and as soon as we touch the system, we own the dramas.

Will be an be a extra OUCH plus? Head line say by. Company say More than 35%[bighmmm]

"Alinta is planning to close its Loy Yang B coal-fired power station in Victoria, which produces 1,000-megawatts of power, replacing it with offshore wind and pumped hydro."What cost me $1 billion to acquire is going to cost me $8 billion to replace, so let's talk about that and [someone] explain to me how energy prices still come down," Mr Dimery told the summit.

"I don't get it. I am missing something.""

Prices and savings number just changed a LOT!

My consideration for doubling the Solar at work got a lot easier as well. Recycling older 5 kw system to family I think.

"One of Australia's leading charities is imploring state and federal governments to shield poor and disadvantaged households from spiralling power prices, saying "scattergun" policies risked making the cost-of-living crisis worse."

Inflation in Prices is assured now. Trying to triple my work solar for several months is a bit slow as now I am told a 300% increase in people trying to get Solar on their houses right now!


"Retail electricity prices are expected by rise by 50 per cent over the next two years, dealing households and businesses another cost-of-living blow.Treasury has assumed in the federal budget that retail power prices will increase by an average of 20 per cent nationally in late 2022, and a further 30 per cent in 2023/24." Link

Have to admit its is going to hurt. The UK example of promised power cost relief made a very short Pommy PM! Here in Vic a promise sounds a very very unlikely on the delivery front in my thoughts


Differing costs in several states can be seen at a wholesale level very easily AEMO data

PS I do not click on links often at present. With OPTUS and Medibank hacks likely via links opened by their staff I hear!:bat:

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

"One of Australia's leading charities is imploring state and federal governments to shield poor and disadvantaged households from spiralling power prices, saying "scattergun" policies risked making the cost-of-living crisis worse."

Inflation in Prices is assured now. Trying to triple my work solar for several months is a bit slow as now I am told a 300% increase in people trying to get Solar on their houses right now!


"Retail electricity prices are expected by rise by 50 per cent over the next two years, dealing households and businesses another cost-of-living blow.Treasury has assumed in the federal budget that retail power prices will increase by an average of 20 per cent nationally in late 2022, and a further 30 per cent in 2023/24." Link

Have to admit its is going to hurt. The UK example of promised power cost relief made a very short Pommy PM! Here in Vic a promise sounds a very very unlikely on the delivery front in my thoughts


Differing costs in several states can be seen at a wholesale level very easily AEMO data

PS I do not click on links often at present. With OPTUS and Medibank hacks likely via links opened by their staff I hear!:bat:

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Going to hurt businesses as well,just like the cost of fuel,mainly diesel.
I know of a smallish business that pays over $25K a month on power ATM.

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Originally Posted by NavyDiver

"One of Australia's leading charities is imploring state and federal governments to shield poor and disadvantaged households from spiralling power prices, saying "scattergun" policies risked making the cost-of-living crisis worse."

Inflation in Prices is assured now. Trying to triple my work solar for several months is a bit slow as now I am told a 300% increase in people trying to get Solar on their houses right now!


"Retail electricity prices are expected by rise by 50 per cent over the next two years, dealing households and businesses another cost-of-living blow.Treasury has assumed in the federal budget that retail power prices will increase by an average of 20 per cent nationally in late 2022, and a further 30 per cent in 2023/24." Link

Have to admit its is going to hurt. The UK example of promised power cost relief made a very short Pommy PM! Here in Vic a promise sounds a very very unlikely on the delivery front in my thoughts


Differing costs in several states can be seen at a wholesale level very easily AEMO data

PS I do not click on links often at present. With OPTUS and Medibank hacks likely via links opened by their staff I hear!:bat:

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In the link........... @ 8.16pm............ QLD $197 /mW, NSW $163, SA $9, Vic $9.

That's a big, big difference, but the wind is blowing.

cheers, DL

@ 2200hrs............QLD and NSW both over $200 / mW, Vic and SA both $0 /mW.

Details here :

ELJM: NEM Regional Generation Summary

The RRP column means 'representative regional price' per mW.

Site updates every 5 mins, in line with the national market.

Callide still out of action. [bigwhistle]

DL

mW - maybe MW?