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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorn View Post
    Oh yeah, I 100% agree with this.
    You don't need mods, or probably not even a 4x4 to travel Australia.

    I just want the ability to dumb things (canning stock, driving at night, turning into a track you are likely not going to make it through), with relative safely.

    The choice to build the vehicle in Europe and ship it to Oz was also more of a 'just because I can' than 'absolutely required'. I mean it helps me understand and prepare, because my experience IS limited. But mostly it is part of the adventure for me. I can buy a random vehicle in Oz, and then buy another vehicle once I get home. But honestly I just fancy the idea of owning the same vehicle for the next decade and being able to see that it has been in Australia, but also the northern cape of Europe.

    Everybody draws the line somewhere. I went carcamping and traveled to above the polar circle in a rwd two seater cabrio, which was amazing, but didn't allow me to go everywhere. On the other hand you have people driving twin locked MOGS on portal axles and 58 inch tyres. So a modified defender doesn't seem that far out of line for the kind of adventure I'd like to go on

    But I agree, it isn't for everyone, and most people go waaay overboard. If you think you need mods before you can do the lap, you are probably doing it wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorn View Post
    No point in building a vehicle for 10 years, while never having the money to take it anywhere.
    Trouble is, once you start it is hard to stop. There is always something else you "need"


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    rollcage and tent design

    it is not supposed to be a racing cage, and it won’t weigh as much.
    Will be chromolly tube.
    Partly for keeping me safe, partly for attaching the tent / solar panel.

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    I think the bear and grizzly 130 has had a GVM upgrade.
    As for insurance, have you priced getting it in your home country with a cover extension to include Australia?
    A standard Defender in good condition can cope with everything Oz will throw at it.
    I agree suspension and tyres are the main issues here, plus thorough servicing and maintenance.
    Distances are large, so a larger fuel tank, such as the 120 litre in our Defender, can be useful.
    I would also make sure the headlights are bright.
    You could consider fitting rear airbags too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I think the bear and grizzly 130 has had a GVM upgrade.
    As for insurance, have you priced getting it in your home country with a cover extension to include Australia?
    A standard Defender in good condition can cope with everything Oz will throw at it.
    I agree suspension and tyres are the main issues here, plus thorough servicing and maintenance.
    Distances are large, so a larger fuel tank, such as the 120 litre in our Defender, can be useful.
    I would also make sure the headlights are bright.
    You could consider fitting rear airbags too.
    Thanks for the tip! I wasn't aware I could potentially have my own insurance to cover australia. I assumed I'd need to get insurance in australia (australian company). Will look into that.

    For tyres I was thinking 255/85 rather than the 285/75. Likely mud terrains. KM3, Coopers, or Toyo's are my options.
    I believe the australian defenders have slightly beefed up cooling, but not 100% sure. Looking at fitting an EGT gauge to keep an eye on the motor at least.

    I've got the default 75L tank, but I will be fitting a 210L aux tank, which I wil likely never fill up to capacity.



    You can see the white tank, the height of the rear rollcage is indicated by the yellow piping (Tent will go on top of that), and the double spares will go on top of the fuel tank.

    Headlights are fine, but I will be adding 2, maybe 3 extra lights on the bullbar. Depends on how far I can stretch the budget really.

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    I wouldn't be considering mud tyres. All terrains will be more economical, quieter and more suited to 99.9% of the surfaces you will encounter.
    Auxiliary lights will need to be fitted in pairs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    I wouldn't be considering mud tyres. All terrains will be more economical, quieter and more suited to 99.9% of the surfaces you will encounter.
    Auxiliary lights will need to be fitted in pairs.
    I'll think about tyres, will also depends on price/durability.

    I was thinking 2 floods/driving/turning lights, and one center spot. I'm not unhappy with the far throw of the high beem, but it does lack in spread.


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    For tyres, I'd be looking at Toyo Open Country or Maxxis Razr. I have had the Maxxis on my D3 for a while and so far, have been more than I need. Very good on road, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I think the bear and grizzly 130 has had a GVM upgrade.

    You could consider fitting rear airbags too.
    The Bear and Grizzly 130 is now running on full air suspension on all wheels. They had it installed at Goldfields Off Road here in Kalgoorlie not that long back. They have put out a video about the install and subsequent testing on the beaches down around Esperance. It has made a huge difference to the vehicle.


    Land Rover Defender FULL AIR suspension system! An epic upgrade. Coil spring replacement! (Ep193) - YouTube
    Testing the new suspension (194) - YouTube
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    Quote Originally Posted by BMKal View Post
    The Bear and Grizzly 130 is now running on full air suspension on all wheels. They had it installed at Goldfields Off Road here in Kalgoorlie not that long back. They have put out a video about the install and subsequent testing on the beaches down around Esperance. It has made a huge difference to the vehicle.


    Land Rover Defender FULL AIR suspension system! An epic upgrade. Coil spring replacement! (Ep193) - YouTube
    Testing the new suspension (194) - YouTube
    It is a very nifty upgrade, and they are pretty wise (don't do dumb tracks, don't drive like idiots).
    Personally I don't mind the rattles and the bumps. It just means I drive slow enough to be comfortable, which should help preserve the vehicle?
    No clue how/if air suspension helps keep the vehicle in one piece.

    All I know is that I can't afford it anyways

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