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    Quote Originally Posted by ozscott View Post
    No that is the nature of third party insurance. Because your damage is not covered by your insurer, your insurer will (assuming no specific exclusions to the insurer indemnifying you apply) pay for the reasonable costs of repair or replacement of the other vehicles. But just bear in mind in such cases to ensure that your insurer is aware of your interests (in writing to the insurer and an acknowledgement in writing from your imsurer) when it is negotiating a settlement with the other vehicle owner / insurer. There may for example be an agreement between your insurer and the owner driver of the third party vehicle (or its insurer) to pay for part of the other vehicle's repair costs on the basis of an agreed apportionment of liability (many, but not all, intersection accidents involve legal responsibility on the part of both drivers). In such cases you want the insurer to note your interests and it may be possible to resolve both with some communications (this may not be relevant where the owner of the other vehicle who is owed something is not one and the same as the driver in which case, absent agency, that owner will not be liable for the damage that you may be entitled to claim and your claim will be against the driver). A good approach is to also make a claim on your own insurer when you are in an accident and have comprehensive insurance, even if you think you are in no way at fault, in preference to dealing with/claiming against the at fault driver (or his/her insurer). Let your insurer sort out your repairs and for it to take recovery action. However there are many pitfalls that may cause issues and exceptions to general rules that can cause issues with recovery and your interests generally if you are not aware of your rights and the best approach I reckon is 1. Make sure if you can afford comprehension insurance you do so: 2. You get legal advice (especially important if you only have third party property damage insurance).

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    That sounds like a very nice insurer that is prepared to act in someone else's interests, usually they just act in their own interest even to the detriment of their clients! For example a guy at my brother's work parked his motorcycle outside, a car left the road and flattened it, insurer argued the claim, eventually paid, but said he had to dispose of the wreck, most places wanted to charge him hundreds of dollars to remove but he finally found someone who would collect it for free.
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    There are circumstances (which probably don't apply to anyone here) where choosing TTP over comprehensive doesn't save you money.

    About 30 years ago I was involved in educating 16 year old students about about such things as the cost of car ownership, insurance, causes of accidents, basic first aid, and the process of getting a licence.

    The information was delivered by the police,the RTA, the NRMA, the Ambulance Service and a car dealer.

    The NRMA did the calculations based on a student's claim that he would buy an old bomb first and then after a few years get a "proper" car like V8.

    TTP accumulates no claim bonus at half the rate of a comprehensive policy, so having twice as much no claim on the very expensive premium on a V8 on hire purchase driven by an under 21 driver would more than cover the extra cost of the full insurance on the old bomb.

    On a different topic, the car dealer did his best to convince the students that the sensible thing to do was to avoid buying a car unless it was impossible to avoid.

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    Yes I agree they should have some kind of insurance, even if they don't want to insure there car they should have a least 3 party. All the cars Mario and I had and they boys have been fully insured. We have drop Brendon car down to 3 party as he is in Japan and is sitting in the drive way and I only take it out now and then and the car is getting old and the insurance works out a bit more than the car is worth. In the UK you have to have insurance on your car as it is illegal not to have it, minimum is 3 party, also the police over there can check your number plate to see if it insured, Heather


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    What if some sort of basic level of insurance was included in the price of fuel & paid to a central fund?

    If it moves, its insured regardless of rego or driver's licence. The more it moves, the more insurance is paid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton477 View Post
    What if some sort of basic level of insurance was included in the price of fuel & paid to a central fund?

    If it moves, its insured regardless of rego or driver's licence. The more it moves, the more insurance is paid.
    If it is linked to fuel, then someone who lives in regional Australia and has to drive huge distances would be paying more for insurance than a city driver who drove fewer kilometres.
    However the city driver might be more likely to have to make an insurance claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vnx205 View Post
    If it is linked to fuel, then someone who lives in regional Australia and has to drive huge distances would be paying more for insurance than a city driver who drove fewer kilometres.
    However the city driver might be more likely to have to make an insurance claim.
    An therein lies the inherent unfairness in that system. I can't think of a fairer way to do it than they do in the UK. You arrange your own insurance, and the proof of that goes with your rego renewal. No insurance, no rego. If you are caught driving uninsured it's a not-insignificant penalty.

    I've sold a couple of cars privately over the years, and I've not let the buyer leave my house until they can confirm they've arranged insurance cover of some sort. The last one was a lovely lady buying her daughter her first car. She hadn't given it so much as a second thought. When I asked how she'd cope if her daughter was involved in even a partially at-fault accident with an exotic $xxx,xxx.xx vehicle on the way home she suddenly thought about it and asked if I'd mind her hanging around while she arrange the insurance. We even made them a cup of tea.

    When I was buying cars, you used to be able to get a "cover note". Apparently now you just buy a policy on-line and then manage the cooling off period if you get a better deal or have a re-think post-purchase.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milton477 View Post
    What if some sort of basic level of insurance was included in the price of fuel & paid to a central fund?

    If it moves, its insured regardless of rego or driver's licence. The more it moves, the more insurance is paid.
    The levy that we pay on fuel now was put there in the first place for road maintenance, It now goes dirctly into general revenue.
    The same would happen to any new tax on fuel for insurance.
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