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    Quote Originally Posted by BradC View Post
    Reminds me of a question I got from Mr 8 year old recently. "Dad, if electricity and water don't mix, what happens if you pee on an electric fence?". I suggested next time we were in the vicinity of one he conduct a controlled scientific experiment and let me know the outcome.
    I believe that the result of that experiment depends on the distance between the origin of the stream of liquid and the electric fence. I have seen people try it on a live fence with no result but I also had a year 8 science teacher who had a very unpleasant experience that he related to the class after arriving home late one evening and forgetting about the live wire. As the stream of fluid gets longer there are sufficient air gaps to prevent conductivity. (this was the 1970's so he had probably been having a few roadies after work )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tote View Post
    I believe that the result of that experiment depends on the distance between the origin of the stream of liquid and the electric fence. I have seen people try it on a live fence with no result but I also had a year 8 science teacher who had a very unpleasant experience that he related to the class after arriving home late one evening and forgetting about the live wire. As the stream of fluid gets longer there are sufficient air gaps to prevent conductivity. (this was the 1970's so he had probably been having a few roadies after work )

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    The current in an electric fence is a spike, like a click.

    Maybe the frequency of the click can be changed.......dunno.

    What I do know is that the strength of the click can be and the old school farmers around here have it ramped up a bit.

    Have had plenty of experience with getting a (no biggy) belt from electric fencing all over Vic, doing fish surveys, but around here........****.

    I sometimes do 'landscape remediation' that involves rabbits and their breathtaking demise.

    Copped a mega belt crossing a fence 6 months ago..............really surprised me. Property owner had noticed the next door farmer's zeal as well.

    Last week, whilst pursuing this particular endeavour, my capped head touched the wire just as the pulse went through.........things went black for a couple of seconds and **** it hurt.

    I have to wear a cap coz my GP reckons I'm a cranial melanoma waiting to happen. Unfortunately vision upwards is restricted.

    In other words.............**** on the fence all you like, you're only going to get belted when the pulse goes through, like a click on yer *****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    The current in an electric fence is a spike, like a click.......
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    Hi,
    Called out to a pole fire years ago.
    Up a dirt road with restricted access, so took the Toyota.
    Three wires on the crosstree, one arcing to the wood, probably 11kV, not sure.
    The wood was burning.
    How to put it out?
    Considered a rain stream of droplets directed while standing on the tanker for insulation from earth.
    But as it was still crackling with Voltage to earth the problem would not go away with cooling and smothering.
    Decided the fire was beyond our skills and stood by to put out any grass fire and sent crew down the road to warn others not to go near or under the powerlines.
    The line dropped to ground, an almighty bang of something tripping and a standing wave went up and down the wires along the road.
    Power was out to the suburb for an hour or so till the linesman crew got it fixed.
    They said it was wise not to tackle the fire, even with falling droplets.
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    I cant believe how good a dogs memory is when it comes to those electric fences.
    Ours got a good kick from one well over 5 yrs ago.
    It was that white tape.

    Anyway,we set one up around the sons chook pen,with white tape,last week,and she wouldnt go within about 4M of it,so we didnt have to bother turning it on.
    His two dogs were the same,wont go anywhere near it,although they have both recently had a kick from another one along the boundary fence.

    Years ago the kids used to touch them with a blade of green grass,and get a punch,so we knew it was working.

    Working with power most days,there is no way i would do that or go anywhere near one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austastar View Post
    Hi,
    ......The line dropped to ground, an almighty bang of something tripping and a standing wave went up and down the wires along the road.
    Power was out to the suburb for an hour or so till the linesman crew got it fixed.
    They said it was wise not to tackle the fire, even with falling droplets.
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    Something to watch out for is a lot of overheads have an "auto reclose" function, so it will trip, wait a few seconds and then close the switch again, to avoid nuisance tripping from lightning, and blow a bat, bird (back on topic), possum, etc. off the line, if that is not successful it locks out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    I cant believe how good a dogs memory is when it comes to those electric fences.
    Ours got a good kick from one well over 5 yrs ago.
    It was that white tape.

    Anyway,we set one up around the sons chook pen,with white tape,last week,and she wouldnt go within about 4M of it,so we didnt have to bother turning it on.
    His two dogs were the same,wont go anywhere near it,although they have both recently had a kick from another one along the boundary fence.

    Years ago the kids used to touch them with a blade of green grass,and get a punch,so we knew it was working.

    Working with power most days,there is no way i would do that or go anywhere near one.
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    Hi,
    Saw a similar scene with Wal & Dog.
    Wal steps over fence in shorts and Wellies.
    Just enough clearance, BUT boots are stuck in sinking mud.
    Wal's face is of pure terror.
    Dog looks whimsical and thought bubble says "What would Lassie do?
    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by austastar View Post
    Hi,
    Saw a similar scene with Wal & Dog.
    Wal steps over fence in shorts and Wellies.
    Just enough clearance, BUT boots are stuck in sinking mud.
    Wal's face is of pure terror.
    Dog looks whimsical and thought bubble says "What would Lassie do?
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    I nearly used that one.

    There's another that I can't find. Wal makes the Dog touch the fence to see if it's "live".
    Dog reluctantly touches fence with one paw.
    Nothing happens, so Wal assumes it's off and grabs hold.
    Wal is drawn obviously getting shocked.
    Dog's bubble says "I'd take another thousand volts any day to see that again"

    I sometimes think that Wal is NZ's answer to Wile E Coyote.
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    Getting back to the OP, if it is a lace necked/ spotted dove it might go into another one's stomach when it dies, as I noticed one hanging around in my garden the last few days and when I put the cat's left over mince and crunchies out for the birds, normally crows, magpies, and plovers, the pigeon ate it instead, something akin to cannibalism I thought. Although Wikipedia says they have been known to eat termites...Spotted dove - Wikipedia
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