Thread: Now Toyotagate

Originally Posted by spudfan

Remember some years ago the revalation that the plant materials for the "bio" part of your diesel was grown on land previously used to grow food crops. As the bio diesel ingredients were getting a better price than the locals could pay for the food, the bio won and the locals lost their land.........

There are many ways to produce biodiesel, as it can be made from any vegetable or animal oil, just not mineral oil. The best is from used cooking oil, as it would have been grown to cook with and then is made into B100, which is 100% bio. Biodiesel is actually a bit of a misnomer, as it is really a FAME a Fatty Acid Methyl Ester.

What you are trying to say is like saying trees are bad for the environment because they emit carbon dioxide!

how on earth did you come to that conclusion?
What I AM saying is that Regardless of the type of fuel you are running in your engine it ALL emits emssions So biodiesel is Not the holey grail of green/clean fuels.
The advantage with biodiesel is that it is Renewable unlike fossil fuels But it still emits polutants when burnt in an engine just like oil from the ground does.

Let’s face it…

Mum & Dad having kids generates more emissions.
More than just replacing with a new generation eg. 2 make 2 then the emissions get worse!

Don’t worry so much about the emissions side of things - worry about magnetic shift. It’s going to cause far more widespread damage to humans.

The planet is going to solve its problems


Back on topic - I hope, if it’s true, Toyota are put through the wringer on this.

Originally Posted by Tombie

Let’s face it…

Mum & Dad having kids generates more emissions.
More than just replacing with a new generation eg. 2 make 2 then the emissions get worse!

Don’t worry so much about the emissions side of things - worry about magnetic shift. It’s going to cause far more widespread damage to humans.

The planet is going to solve its problems


Back on topic - I hope, if it’s true, Toyota are put through the wringer on this.

I wonder if the increase in Cosmogenic Nuclides will eventually be assimilated into the current Climate Change agenda?

Originally Posted by Tombie

Let’s face it…

Mum & Dad having kids generates more emissions.
More than just replacing with a new generation eg. 2 make 2 then the emissions get worse!

Don’t worry so much about the emissions side of things - worry about magnetic shift. It’s going to cause far more widespread damage to humans.

Australia generates around 1.2% of world emissions....so less than a drop in the ocean

But we should try to reduce them,without being silly and stupid about it all.Do it sensibly,and not create other problems on the way.
Which seems impossible for some.

Back on topic,i wonder which vehicle manufacturer hasn't bent the rules on emissions,more than likely none?
The bigger manufacturers will always be the targets,as there is more to gain from successfull action against them.

Originally Posted by RANDLOVER

Unless it runs on biodiesel, baby!

At the cost of food production.

Interesting bringing VW Dieselgate into this. All VW did was make cars to pass a test. If that's a problem then better tests are required. The poor testing protocols are hardly VW's fault.

VW were cynical, not criminal, but that doesn't matter in today's 'trial by "social" media world'.

Agree that Toyota should have learned from it though. I wonder if they will get the pillory treatment VW did. Somehow I doubt it.

People have short memories. They are busy buying VW "green" cars. If they lied about diesel emissions what makes people swallow their "green" agenda.