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Saw that on ABC. What a bloody mess! Have a small Gennie for here. but not large enough to supply 150,000 houses.[bigrolf] Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arapiles
A bit of forward thinking when the house was rewired, gave us a 2 way isolator & various impediment for such a day & it works ok.
Just need to be here to kick the Gennie in the guts. Nowadays you can do it by mobile phone always assuming the Tower equipment is ok.[bighmmm]
We lost power at approximately 2pm on 13/02/2024.
As of noon on 14/02/2024 - we still don't have it back on.
Luckily I don't drive an EV - as I would be in trouble trying to charge it right now... In my 35 years of driving - I have never, ever been unable to buy petrol...
I thought the government had sorted all of our electricity issues - with magical wind & solar farms? One 5 minute storm at 500,000 people don't have power? And people tell me that this is the future?
Time to get serious an install a nuclear powerplant...
Pic from MSN:Quote:
Originally Posted by Arapiles
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Another shot (courtesy of jacquifelgate on Facebook)
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They're reliant on a very clever structure to be *big* and light. If you buckle an element the whole thing collapses like a house of cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arapiles
So it's probably a combination of age and degradation, and a weather event at the wrong time, angle and force.
We will probably see more events like this in Victoria. These storm events are like a Cat 1 or 2 cyclone passing through.
The power transmission towers built by the SECV in the ‘80s were not designed to handle convective downward wind gusts. Wind gusts in excess of 125kph can bring these towers down.
Same thing happened on this line in 2020 which took down 6 towers.
And like the 2020 event, the Mortlake gas power station is probably now supplying the Portland Smelter (came on line when Loy Yang A went down).
Still heaps without power and we can’t give the stuff away at the moment. Loy Yang is at half capacity with units 1 and 4 still off line, but that doesn’t really matter at the moment as there’s a huge excess with lots not being able to use it.
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The storm cell sitting over Fitzroy/Carlton looked exactly like the ones in the US that create tornados. So it was probably something like that that hit the pylons. And the winds were going east but the squall that hit me when I was in my car came from the East.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoDB
Given sufficient solar panels an EV would still be chargeable - as I've noted a couple of times the experience in Japan was that EVs were more resilient after Fukushima than ICE. And having nuclear energy would be of no assistance if the powerlines go down, which they did in this instance. And the powerlines going down has no connection to renewable power, except that climate change is making these kinds of event more common. We never used to have summer storms like this ....Quote:
Originally Posted by grey_ghost
Depending on the setup, having solar panels on your roof doesn’t help with power outages. I have solar on my roof, which can’t pump into the grid due to - you guessed it - the local infrastructure can’t handle it. When we have a power out the solar does absolutely nothing. We could install a battery system - which is quite expensive, uses even more resources from the earth and won’t last forever. So we dig up even more resources to get around the problem? I don’t think that is the answer either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Arapiles
In your scenario doesn’t that mean that wvery EV driver has to have solar and a battery system at home? How many precious minerals will that use? Do we even have enough?
Listening to the energy minister last night - she admitted that we generate 30% of our electricity from gas.. Yeah gas - the stuff the government is getting rid of…
So let’s go renewables right? Last time I looked the sun doesn’t shine at night. Which means more batteries. But really big ones yeah? More precious minerals…
How about wind? Oh yeah - the windmills that they turn off when it’s too windy… Oops
Sorry but I just don’t get the manical push for renewables. Yes - it should absolutely be part of the system, but not the entire solution…
