Thread: Victorian Container Deposit Scheme - A scam ?

It’s another tax grab, nothing more.

Hello All,

I cannot comment about the scheme in Victoria. However, since the start of the scheme in Queensland there has been noticeably less litter in the form of plastic bottles discarded along the edges of roadways and on the streets. These plastic bottles can then travel into our waterways. There are also disability-based and community groups that now have an income stream that they previously did not have access to. There are also people with disability being employed at the some of the local bottle drop, sorting and packing centres. The environment and our community have benefited in Queensland from the scheme. Perhaps the scheme, while not all together perfect, is a lesser evil.

Oh, as a disability advocate I have to write "Full wages for a fair day's work." Stop proportional wage payments for people with a disability.

Kind regards
Lionel

Originally Posted by Lionelgee

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I cannot comment about the scheme in Victoria. However, since the start of the scheme in Queensland there has been noticeably less litter in the form of plastic bottles discarded along the edges of roadways and on the streets. .....

Kind regards
Lionel

I can't speak of the rest of Vic, but I used to live in Coburg(no longer) and I used to sometimes head up to a northern suburb with a large-ish shopping centre that had a 24hr Kmart(where the missus loves to shop) ... and I used to head to the Coles there(good deli produce). I always remember this area as the one that no one gives a stuff about ... totally forgotten backwater that was always filthy, always .. no one there gives a stuff type attitude.

But about a year ago, maybe a bit more, they added one of those stations, and cleanliness of that car park is/was(that I last went there) orders of magnitude greater. There were always bottles knocking about by the wind .. last time I remember, long queues of cars at the station instead.

For me, given the choice of 10c more expensive drink bottle, or seeing less garbage ... I'll take the "less garbage" preference every time!

Oh! and I'm more of a soda steam type person, have been for a good 5 or so years, so the added cost of 10c to a drink doesn't really affect me that much.

Originally Posted by AK83

For me, given the choice of 10c more expensive drink bottle, or seeing less garbage ... I'll take the "less garbage" preference every time!

Problem is that they slugged drinks much more than 10c.
Those of us that always did the right thing pay more and also have the inconvenience of going out of our way to get just 10c back.

From someone in the industry I heard that there is a 13% increase in recycling so it has had an effect but we're all paying for it !

Colin

13% increase. All depends on the starting number which I take it was higher than nil

Back fifty odd years ago here in NZ, such deposit and refund schemes were on glass drink bottles. Schools often had bottle drop off and collections where parents could drop off bottles and over time these would build up to a large quantity and then the school would cash these in for funds.

Hi,
Years ago, ACL had a glass/bottle factory near Hobart. Scouts, schools, kids, had a source of income for returning bottles for reuse or recycling.
Part of the fun, if we were taken to a public event, was collecting bottles for money.
Cheers

Originally Posted by 3toes

13% increase. All depends on the starting number which I take it was higher than nil

Of course it depends on the starting number.
We all have recycling bins so they are seeing a drop in cans bottles via the recycling bins and overall a 13% increase with the total from recycling bins and the new Container Deposit centres.

Everyone buying product in cans/bottles is paying more than the 10c they get back.
The people running the Container Deposit centres need to cover wages, rent etc. Everyone is paying for that now because some people weren't recycling.

Next issue is that they want you to set up an account and they put the money back on your credit card, won't be long and we'll get taxed on the 'income'.

There's about $100 sitting at home, I need to find a Centre that pays cash. All the bottles/cans were purchased by my kids.


Colin