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    New Toy

    I watched mine roll off the ship in Fremantle last weekend.

    Should take delivery next month.


    I just have to break the bad news to the Disco now
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    Quote Originally Posted by stusgonesailing
    I watched mine roll off the ship in Fremantle last weekend.
    Should take delivery next month.
    I just have to break the bad news to the Disco now
    That's what we like to see; going down and meeting your Defender as it comes off the ship. You don't get Toyota owners doing that, and why would they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesH
    That's what we like to see; going down and meeting your Defender as it comes off the ship. You don't get Toyota owners doing that, and why would they?
    More like how could they, they have that many in stock it'd be improbable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stusgonesailing
    I watched mine roll off the ship in Fremantle last weekend.
    That's great!

    It brings a tear to my eye.

    All that ship for one Defender...talk about the red carpet treatment.
    Mahn England

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    Quote Originally Posted by tombraider
    My wishlist (a reasonable one, not a dream) would have been:
    - airbags WHY???? Waste of freakin time
    - automatic OK Fair enough here
    - relocated ECU and battery (they may have done this but I doubt it)OK Fair enough here
    - properly strengthend rear door (still will need a rear wheel carrier)OK Fair enough here but rated to carry WHAT size tyre? My 35s??? they're 36kg EACH
    - increased payload (hope we get the heavy-duty versions over here)OK Fair enough here
    - DSC Why would you want this pile of electronic crap?
    - Driver-controllable traction control OK Fair enough here
    - HDC Once again... WHY???
    - tighter turning circle OK Fair enough here
    - upgraded headlights OK Fair enough here
    - non-jiggly exterior mirrors Mine dont jiggle (at all) - Mirrors that is
    - larger fuel tank (120l would be good thanks) OK Fair enough here
    What, realistically, would you have wanted to see?


    How about:

    Larger tyre diameter from factory around 35"
    Factory Lockers
    Height adjustable suspension
    Integrated A/C etc... (like upcoming model)
    Sound deadening as option
    24v electrics
    Lower TC low range
    Lift up side windows
    V6 or V8 Turbo Diesel

    Cheers
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    Airbags for safety. Rear door carrier sufficient to carry a 265/75/16 LT tyre on a steel rim over corrugagagatations for 5 years. BTW you sure your 35s are only 36kg?

    DSC is bloody useful. I wish all cars had it and all 4WDs the option to disable it.

    HDC isn't quite as useful but would be pretty easy to put in so why not.

    I don't think larger tyres would be a good option. Just increase fuel consumption and the tranny would need to be stronger and heavier.

    Agree re factory lockers.

    The new model will be quieter.

    Don't follow "lower TC low range" -- isn't 1:62 enough, even with 35s?

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    New one? Mine is 2.5 years old.

    What I like about the new model:

    - will be quieter
    - use less fuel
    - lower low range (love the 1:62)
    - more torque, power more available
    - dash is great
    - expect the seats to be an improvement

    really not a huge amount to get excited about. I think missing airbags, auto and DSC was a huge mistake.

    BTW my mirrors are as tight as they get!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmp
    Airbags for safety. Rear door carrier sufficient to carry a 265/75/16 LT tyre on a steel rim over corrugagagatations for 5 years. BTW you sure your 35s are only 36kg?

    DSC is bloody useful. I wish all cars had it and all 4WDs the option to disable it.

    HDC isn't quite as useful but would be pretty easy to put in so why not.

    I don't think larger tyres would be a good option. Just increase fuel consumption and the tranny would need to be stronger and heavier.

    Agree re factory lockers.

    The new model will be quieter



    Don't follow "lower TC low range" -- isn't 1:62 enough, even with 35s?
    I would like as well as my previous wish list on this thread:-
    Gleasman Torsen diffs in all three would be nice, or Detroit lockers as second choice.
    Transfer case high range of 1:1 with a five or 6 speed o/d trans in front would make a decent on-road power train, then make the transfer low range as low as is necessary for off-road.
    More, more, more room for the driver. Yes, I have said this before. Just making sure the message gets across.
    Larger frontal area radiator.
    Round headlights, heavy gauge wiring, double relays.
    Factory air con. that works in Oz summers. The poms might need to talk to GM or Chrysler about this. The poms won't even put ice in a mixed drink unless you ask or make a fuss. I can live without a/c but if you have it, it should work properly.
    Variable duration intermittent wipers.
    Large washer bottle (4 or 5 litres) and twin washer pumps.
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    I'm in the process of making a base speaker box for the space on the rear wall of my ute (behind the centre console) to improve the sound in my 99 model fender. as a matter of interest the blokes at the car ound shop also suggeted tweeters in a remote mount on either side of the dash (and only $150). Think I'll just ugrade my truk instead of blowing 50k plus for tweeters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rmp
    Airbags for safety. Rear door carrier sufficient to carry a 265/75/16 LT tyre on a steel rim over corrugagagatations for 5 years. BTW you sure your 35s are only 36kg?

    DSC is bloody useful. I wish all cars had it and all 4WDs the option to disable it.

    HDC isn't quite as useful but would be pretty easy to put in so why not.

    I don't think larger tyres would be a good option. Just increase fuel consumption and the tranny would need to be stronger and heavier.

    Agree re factory lockers.

    The new model will be quieter.

    Don't follow "lower TC low range" -- isn't 1:62 enough, even with 35s?
    Yep... The 35's weigh 60 pounds... + a very light Alloy... And the air I used is the reduce fat version

    DSC is for people who cant drive, point blank.... DSC is a responsibility remover, it takes away the drivers requirement to read the conditions and perform accordingly, replacing it with a "this should get you out of the **** mechanism"

    As for Lower Low ratio.... Low is NEVER enough.... I like it low enough you can go low 1st, hop out and out walk the vehicle... Now thats decent crawling!

    SRS (from a different post) is once again the marketting worlds perfection!
    SRS is to fulfill the safety regs... Its a 'patch' measure to make a vehicle meet compliance requirements, it doesnt necessarily save lives.

    Most, if not ALL women, sit within the danger zone of airbags in steering wheels due to stature etc... is this safe? NO....

    Defenders have one of the highest safety records in the UK... No airbags... I think this speaks volumes on its own.

    Cheers
    Tombraider

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    Quote Originally Posted by tombraider
    SRS (from a different post) is once again the marketting worlds perfection!
    SRS is to fulfill the safety regs... Its a 'patch' measure to make a vehicle meet compliance requirements, it doesnt necessarily save lives.

    Most, if not ALL women, sit within the danger zone of airbags in steering wheels due to stature etc... is this safe? NO....

    Defenders have one of the highest safety records in the UK... No airbags... I think this speaks volumes on its own.

    Cheers
    Tombraider
    Yes, good safety in low-speed crashes where high structural integrity wins out over crumple zones. But is that how we drive them here? As for a "patch" - yes, it's possible to build a vehicle that's safe without airbags. But a safe Defender without airbags? That'll need to wait until at least 2011. And airbags don't "necessarily" save lives - that's a fine line. They reduce head and facial injuries. So perhaps it's like the shocking rollover "protection" of 1980's cars - not a lot of lives lost but a lot of people permanently disabled.

    In Australia (where I live, at least) they don't perform so well in the equivalent comparison - http://www.mynrma.com.au/used_safety_ratings_4wd.asp.

    Steve

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