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    It was always going to be a stop gap until the "new" Defender on the D3 chassiws was released. The only issue is the introduction of the new engine, gearbox and interior (good or bad) shows the intention of keeping the "new" Defender under wraps until 2009 or perhaps 2010.

    The changes are not significant enough to warrant a change from my current 2004 Defender. If rumours are true and the "new" Defender in 2010 is based on the D3 chassis and TDV6 engine .. I will most certainly put in an order (depending on price) but the greylandy will be a keeper .. until I hand over the keys to my unborn son!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greylandy

    .. until I hand over the keys to my unborn son!!

    Did I read that correctly

    Are you to spawn?
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    . until I hand over the keys to my unborn son!! [/quote]



    And may the tradition continue...............
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    I wanted...

    this:




    http://rovering.squarespace.com/jour...t-concept.html

    or this:



    http://rovering.squarespace.com/jour...r-concept.html

    I like the seating on the LCV. To add insult to injury, it's even a genuine LR product.

    Steve

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrambler
    this:




    http://rovering.squarespace.com/jour...t-concept.html

    or this:



    http://rovering.squarespace.com/jour...r-concept.html

    I like the seating on the LCV. To add insult to injury, it's even a genuine LR product.

    Steve
    There is something not right in that rollover on the front end
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    The curved glass removes one of the key attractions of the Defender - low insolation problem and the ability to replace broken glass easily and cheaply.
    No thanks.
    John
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    new defender should have:

    150mm wider track and body
    50mm wider chassis width
    100mm longer front doors
    same bonnet and gards as now(no hump)
    latest tech diesel about 3lt 5cyl
    CLOSE ratio 6 speed man (6th is 1-1)
    high pinion hypiod diffs, 4 pin, 9 inch ring gear
    approx 4.1 r&p to protect props and to disipate engine torque.
    35mm dia axles
    101 size cv's
    move front axle foward 25mm(radius arms 25mm longer/use same mount)
    move rear axle rearward 50mm
    o/a chassis lenght is same as now
    move engine/gearbox/transfer case back 200mm
    rear trailing arm at chassis to continue up and mount at body outrigger
    bigger rear ball joint with the abilty to angle more
    complete new wiring
    very basic (like s11a dash but moden) and nice new dash options
    keep front vents
    set up for dual batterys one under both front seats
    standardise nut and bolts all metric

    COMPLETE NEW WIRING

    cheers serg

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    Quote Originally Posted by uninformed
    new defender should have:

    150mm wider track and body
    50mm wider chassis width
    100mm longer front doors
    same bonnet and gards as now(no hump)
    latest tech diesel about 3lt 5cyl
    CLOSE ratio 6 speed man (6th is 1-1)
    high pinion hypiod diffs, 4 pin, 9 inch ring gear
    approx 4.1 r&p to protect props and to disipate engine torque.
    35mm dia axles
    101 size cv's
    move front axle foward 25mm(radius arms 25mm longer/use same mount)
    move rear axle rearward 50mm
    o/a chassis lenght is same as now
    move engine/gearbox/transfer case back 200mm
    rear trailing arm at chassis to continue up and mount at body outrigger
    bigger rear ball joint with the abilty to angle more
    complete new wiring
    very basic (like s11a dash but moden) and nice new dash options
    keep front vents
    set up for dual batterys one under both front seats
    standardise nut and bolts all metric

    COMPLETE NEW WIRING

    cheers serg
    Very specific, some of which I would agree with, some I don't ( for example, 150mm wider would cause problems with trees on a lot of the tracks I drive on regularly). Unfortunately, a lot of the changes you are looking for, such as the body dimension changes, would require major new tooling - and simply has zero chance of happening before a complete redesign, which is certain to use an existing platform, probably the D3, and have nothing except the name and perhaps styling in common with the Defender.
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    re the track width, I'm with John, maybe 50mm, 75mm max wider (to help turning circle, keep front radius arms/chassis as is)
    I've often thought of having a spacer machined to fit between the axle tubes and swivels and get longer axles and steering arms made. Keeps scrub radius reasonable, unlike offset rims, and fix's (helps) turning circle. Also looks 'more' legal, just isn't. It's just $$$$$

    Interesting that a mates older brother who used to be a RAEME used to tell us that on joint exercises in the top end, HUMMVEEs used to stake tyres all the time as the track was so wide one wheel/tyre ran where all the scree/crap was pushed aside by conventional vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rick130
    re the track width, I'm with John, maybe 50mm, 75mm max wider (to help turning circle, keep front radius arms/chassis as is)
    I've often thought of having a spacer machined to fit between the axle tubes and swivels and get longer axles and steering arms made. Keeps scrub radius reasonable, unlike offset rims, and fix's (helps) turning circle. Also looks 'more' legal, just isn't. It's just $$$$$

    Interesting that a mates older brother who used to be a RAEME used to tell us that on joint exercises in the top end, HUMMVEEs used to stake tyres all the time as the track was so wide one wheel/tyre ran where all the scree/crap was pushed aside by conventional vehicles.
    Yes, never thought of that idea - not sure whether you could improve the turning circle much compared to standard - how much more can you turn the CV joints?

    I've heard about problems with HUMMVEES being unusable in many towns in Europe and the Middle East simply because they are too wide. The problems here are a lot of the tracks are only just wide enough between trees for the normal width cars/utes such as the Defender or Hilux. OK, add six inches in width, and you would still be able to get through in most cases, but where with existing vehicles you can drive at a reasonable speed, on a winding track with only an inch or two clearance, you would be driving a lot slower. OK if you live in the desert though.
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