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I see it as being in the march is an honor and shouldn't just be given willy nilly. It means something so teach him yes but no to him carrying the flag. I support people protesting and oppose what they don't agree with but thats not what I saw those riots were about.
Well... I asked my grand-dad, who got shot in the head on kokoda trail in wwii... and prior to that he was actually in lebanon fighting against germans...
He said that if he caught the guy p1ssing on the flag that he would p1ss on him!!!
Ok tough words from a 93 year old, but I'm sure that if the young bloke that peed on the flag was stuck on the side of the road with a flat tyre.... my grand-dad would be the first bloke to pullover and give the bloke a hand - regardless of colour, race or religon.
Cr@p... why the hell can't we all just get on?!!!
... Scott
Although there is merit in this, the 'Army of old' is no more. The army is no longer the domain of the 'I ain't real smart but I can lift heavy things' Australian any more.:( The Army is now a thinking mans (or womans:eek: ) caper, we want to smarten it up, not dumb it down by dumping societies detritus onto it:mad: .Quote:
Originally Posted by cewilson
Then again, those really remote gestapo style youth boot camps would fun for the young unpatriotic tacker.:angel:
Regards
Ralph
A little off topic, but i don't understasd this constant "respect" thing for an RSL, I fully understand the things that they once were and stood for, but have you been inside one lately, eeerrrrrr, those pokie noises make me cringe, i used to do maintenance in a few of my local RSL's and all i'd get was "sir could you please remove your cap" i'm thinking what the hey, i'm in a pokie venue watching old ducks spend there pension in this things and youyr worried about me being disrespectful by wearing a hat???? now thats respect:confused:
It's not just respect. It has always been good manners to remove your hat when entering a building (some exceptions apply). Look up your rules of etiquette. I always remove mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by rovercare
See http://www.askandyaboutclothes.com/C...s_and_caps.htm
I remember a few years ago telling tourists to remove their hats inside Parliament House in Canberra.
Ron
Don't know about Aus but in the UK burning the nations flag is seen as treason and treason in the UK still holds the death penalty. Best thing for them.
It ****es me off when people do things like this. We had it in the uk that during the ashes last year concil told people they were not allowed to fly the St Geaorges flag as it was racest to others. WHAT we were in the UK. This sort of stuff winds me up. If you don't like where you live F*** **F.
The other thing. This lad of 17 may think he is a hard nut but i bet if you put a gun in his hand and said OH you are going to Iraq. He would sh*t himself. I don't know about you lot on here, but i watch documentrys on the 1st and second world war and think crap i could never have done that . I would be scared sh*t. I don't know how those bloke of that time did it.
I have been to the D Day beaches and Gallipoli. Both of the places just made me feel admuration for them and how brave thay were , and how much of a wimp i must be.
I, too, would be scared out of my pants.
Roin
As truthfully told we would all be scared s****less. The diggers that fought were as well, just ask some of them. But they did what had to be done as we would in the same situation.
Wars and conflict are pointless and usually more about power than defence or rights.
As said the RSL's are a huge joke now and are just mini casino's. I used to love going to the RSL with my Nan and Pop, but avoid them like the plague now. I can not stand that ding ding ding of the poker machines.
I just hope they keep them out of WA.
In Australia there is no formal penalty for burning the flag. I think, however innapropriate it was, the idea of carrying the flag was to put som restorative justice to work and make the guy see first hand what the flag means to australian people, i think the response from the public over the suggestion got the message accross. matt
what? RSLs?Quote:
Originally Posted by CraigE
Ron