Thread: Blinded by the light

Originally Posted by Ace

At the end of the day if mister plod is in a bad mood it wouldnt matter if they were your pet glow worms riding in the wind, you will get a ticket. Matt

And a defect notice.

A Mexican mate of mine with a holden ute with lights on the roof, was in Central Qld., and a cop gave him a ticket for having the lights and issued a defect notice as well.

Whether the law has changed or not, it’s still an argument you won’t win if the cop has it in for you.

Make them easily detachable and remove them when not in use.

Cheers.

Originally Posted by dullbird

as far as i heard

roof lights are permitted as long as they don't work

decrative value only..........

just hide a cut switch somewhere to flick if the police pull you over......

it can't be illegal to have them on the roof full stop as ever second hilux has got them not to mention jeep

besides if you get pulled over just say "there roof tits officer" "would you like to cop a feel"

Ok, this is from Qld. Transport Modifications Section. Roof mounted lights are now permitted. Previously all such installations were illegal. QT does not like such installations and was not in favour of the change to the rules. However, whilst installation is now permitted, use is another thing. Roof mounted lights must be independently, not individually, switched, that is not through the headlights. They do not meet the definition of additional headlights which is what the Dept. calls spotlights, driving lights,etc. Additional headlight's centres may not be higher than the top of the existing high beam headlights. The rules for use of roof lights are the same as those for high beams, not to be used within 200 metres of another vehicle, not to cause annoyance to the driver of any other vehicle, not to interfere with the safe operation of any other vehicle. A Dept. officer pointed out that the driver of "any other vehicle" may be a stroppy copper or pedantic transport inspector. Both officers suggested that use is best kept for off-road and private roads.

According to this thread -
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/showthread...of+lights+rack
- the ADRs were changed to allow factory roof light options coming out on Jeeps, and therefore they are now permitted on other vehicles.

From Transport QLD

Specific (Driving lamps)
• Two additional pairs of driving lamps may be fitted to a motor vehicle.
• The driving lamps must be mounted symmetrically on the vehicle.
• The light emitted must not cause the driver discomfort either directly or indirectly through the rear view mirror and/or other reflecting surfaces of the motor vehicle.
• Driving lamps must not be placed wider than the dipped beam headlamps.
• The colour of light emitted from driving lamps must be white.
• Additional driving lamps must only operate in conjunction with the high beam circuit and must be fitted with an independent on/off switch.
• There is no individual height specification for the fitting of driving lamps.

Things do change but: "Driving lamps must not be placed wider than the dipped beam headlamps" would look rather interesting on a Series II

have you got horses dobbo, or are you just looking for other peoples



russler

Originally Posted by dobbo

They would be strictly for offroad and paddock use only, have you ever tried to find a horse in a paddock at night?

Plus I'm itching to do a night Stockton run and good lights are a must for this also.

Originally Posted by Turtle61

From Transport QLD

Specific (Driving lamps)
• Two additional pairs of driving lamps may be fitted to a motor vehicle.
• The driving lamps must be mounted symmetrically on the vehicle.
• The light emitted must not cause the driver discomfort either directly or indirectly through the rear view mirror and/or other reflecting surfaces of the motor vehicle.
• Driving lamps must not be placed wider than the dipped beam headlamps.
• The colour of light emitted from driving lamps must be white.
• Additional driving lamps must only operate in conjunction with the high beam circuit and must be fitted with an independent on/off switch.
• There is no individual height specification for the fitting of driving lamps.

Things do change but: "Driving lamps must not be placed wider than the dipped beam headlamps" would look rather interesting on a Series II

Well, it appears the more people you ask at Qld. Transport, the more opinions you get. The information I provided earlier in this thread was from two different transport officers on two different occasions, and they were unknowingly in agreement.Manufacturers may now place headlights at any convenient height, but this may not be altered without an engineer's report and modification plate. Previously, headlights had to be between .6 and 1.24 metres centre height above ground level. There most certainly was a height specification for driving lights, which was centres no higher than the centres of the high beam headlights. This caused much shouting and arm waving at scrutineering of interstate rally cars competing in Qld. as the lower staters used to high mount their batteries of driving lights, and were knocked back by Qld. scrutineers as the local registration requirement was no higher than high beam centres. Rally Cars were required to be legal in the host state.
This height requirement was relaxed to centres of driving lights no higher than the top of the high beam headlights, which was what the two officers told me in July and September this year.

Anothe option if you're making something could be these

http://www.x-eng.co.uk/X-Lite.asp?MID=43

I haven't actually seen them in use but they could have benefits... a guy on Outerlimits is importing them

Originally Posted by dullbird

have you got horses dobbo, or are you just looking for other peoples



russler

Yes we russle our own