Thread: Question about Defenders

just to look at em, the Deefers have a slightly higher ground clearance. and more room under the arches and the deefers come with (V a 93 disco anyway) taller rubber

Other that Im guessing spring lenghts might be more favorable, lack of sway bars, D90 v D110 is a good example of that and perhaps people are more willing to get the deefer into situations whee it might cope a bend or scrape than the disco... I know I added 2 inches worth of spring lift to my deefer and then 16r7.50LTs and would have happily put it up against any deefer of the time.

No point in having the worlds best vehicles if you never go near their abilities cause you dont want to get it dusty

Rangie has only got CDL
Discovery only has CDL

Lockers are optional aftermarket on both.

Defender only has CDL (some have ETC - later TD5s)

Defender (assuming std vehicles) has larger tyres, a more slab sided profile (tight tracks) and a slightly longer track length.

Shorter overhangs on the fender allow better approach/departure too.

Thats basic info....

Originally Posted by Quiggers

I can understand a RR may do it better than a Disco, as it has three lockable diffs to the Discos' one and only CDL, but why the Defender?

I'm not quite sure where that 3 lockable diffs came from. Until very recently, all Landies (Series, RR, Disco, Defender, and Freelander) have had open diffs in both axles.

Ron

Quiggers -- they all only have one 'diff lock' from the factory, a CDL.

While the Rangie and the Disco have it over the Defender (except for the 90) in terms of wheelbase (100 inch) as opposed to the 110, the Defender has better clearance, courtesy of the larger wheel/tyre combo and lower gearing than the Rangie/Disco twins.

The Def90 makes the best in terms of the really tough stuff with the shorter wheelbase lower gearing and greater clearance. The 90s approach/ramp over and departure angles are awesome.

Some will also argue the 100" Hybrid Defender is the ULTIMATE land rover.....

Thank you all, got the picture.

I'll stand corrected about RRs with 3 diff locks. My only experience with this was two seperate work colleagues who had a RRs in the late 1980's with 'extra switches' I assumed they were original, after market would've put in better looking switches, maybe.... curiously both were red and both were 4 door, but they (the clients) didn't know each other....

Is there that much of a difference in clearance, my D1 has fairly high (standard) hi profile tyres....and the rims for all are 16"......

Thanks, GQ

Originally Posted by Quiggers

Is there that much of a difference in clearance, my D1 has fairly high (standard) hi profile tyres....and the rims for all are 16"......

The rims are 16in on both but your Disco will have either 235/70 or 205R16. Both of these are about 29.5in tall. The Defender has 235/85 which are about 32in tall.

Having been seriously off road with the LROCV and others, I would say a series 2 disco works harder and has to be driven with greater attention to detail ( I forgot the word for that) than a Defender, I can't comment on the newer Disco's or Rangies as no one goes to these places in them, at least I've not seen them. Some do but get talked into taking an easier section, as panel damage would be likely, thats where slab sides are the winner.

Originally Posted by DeeJay

Having been seriously off road with the LROCV and others, I would say a series 2 disco works harder and has to be driven with greater attention to detail ( I forgot the word for that) than a Defender, I can't comment on the newer Disco's or Rangies as no one goes to these places in them, at least I've not seen them. Some do but get talked into taking an easier section, as panel damage would be likely, thats where slab sides are the winner.

route selection or as i prefer

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