Thread: Nuclear Power - debate / poll

Another train delayed just now owing to a youth throwing seats off the train here on the platform right outside my box.

Now awaiting police.

Ron

Originally Posted by p38arover

Another train delayed just now owing to a youth throwing seats off the train here on the platform right outside my box.

Now awaiting police.

Ron

Is the train delayed?


Have a look on the side of the train (opposite) the platform.


Prolly doin "Run Ups" while it's stationary.....never know....maybe a window down whole car!

Can't call your night slow then Ron?

Shorty.

The train's gone - but it's more likely the freighter I've had stuck in the refuge has been hit.

The cops are here. Friday and Saturday nights are bad. So was Thursday night

Ron

Originally Posted by moose

Copied directly from wikipedia.

"Contrary to popular belief, coal power actually results in more radioactive waste being released into the environment than nuclear power"

"Nuclear generation does not directly produce sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, mercury or other pollutants associated with the combustion of fossil fuels (pollution from fossil fuels is blamed for many deaths each year in the U.S. alone). It also does not directly produce carbon dioxide, which has led some environmentalists to advocate increased reliance on nuclear energy as a means to reduce greenhouse gas emissions."

"Even at three mile island, the most severe civilian nuclear accident in the non-Soviet world, the reactor vessel and containment building were never breached, even though it had suffered a core meltdown, so that very little radiation (well below natural background radiation levels) was released into the environment"

There are many other facts in there that dispel the myths surrounding nuclear energy. As I said before, go have a read

If the basis of the arguement has turned to "nuclear is more expensive", tough. Something has to be done.

On a personal note, thanks grumybastard for raising this issue, it has been most educational.

Moose the mining of uranium ore produces Radon gas which is radioactive and is released into the air when mined, also when crushed for treatment and then there is the radioactive tailings from the processing to yellow cake and more Co2 produced when they turn the yellow cake into uranium oxide by using fossil fuels to heat it, which is all produced here in Australia and then there is the enormous mileages by trucks to deliver to ports for shipment overseas, more co2 from the ship, then it has to be enriched, more co2, the way some of you advocates are talking this uranium fuel magically turns up at the reactor with no cost to the environment. I worked at Mary Kathleen Uranium mine and the amount of infrastucture to mine, transport, crush, process and transport is enormous, they have dismantled Mary K now, but if you go to Google Earth and have a look at the devastation caused by the mining and Tailings dam you will see the impact on the environment. it is about halfway between Cloncurry and Mt.Isa. If you look at the other uranium mines you will see the enormous tailings dams with there radioactive waste, you will notice they are also in the middle of nowhere, so transport rears it's head again.
Something wikipedia might not tell you. When the Yanks were developing the Atomic bomb during the second world war, they knew that the explosion was caused by a chain reaction of the radioactive material used, WHAT THE BASTARDS DIDN'T KNOW was that the chain reaction they were inducing may have continued on and on and destroyed the entire world, YET THEY STILL WENT AHEAD AND DID IT, now that's what I call arrogance, they were willing to destroy a planet to develop the bomb, you gotta remeber NO ONE back then knew anything about nuclear chain reaction, 62 years later and still no safe way of disposing of nuclear waste, has anyone asked why the Yanks haven't built any NP stations since the 70's, Cost maybe, Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by moose

here's the list of references quoted. Feel free to check up on them.
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• Steve Thomas (2005), "The Economics of Nuclear Power: analysis of recent studies", PSIRU, University of Greenwich, UK
• Nuclear power information archives from ALSOS, the National Digital Science Library at Washington & Lee University.
• Nuclear Power: the Energy Balance A comprehensive yet controversial lifecycle assessment of nuclear power generation by Jan Willem Storm van Leeuwen and Philip Smith, update August 2005
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Moose did you check them all out or did you just Copy and Paste, Regards Frank.

Originally Posted by p38arover

The train's gone - but it's more likely the freighter I've had stuck in the refuge has been hit.

The cops are here. Friday and Saturday nights are bad. So was Thursday night

Ron

Never mind....It's not your fault.

Writers will always be painting........where ever the opportunity .......frieghts or public stuff.......it dont matter.

Relax and have a good night.

BTW...yes I'm drunk.....yes I cant spell for ****!