Defender Exterior Protecton/Roll Cage

**JDNSW** · 12th March 2007, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by lokka

4k seems a bit rich i could build one but would need sum specs....
How do the mounts bolt up to the body do they just have a plate bhind the mounts as it looks like an easy job if your handy with a pipe bender and a mig

I think you will find they go through the body (where they appear to bolt to the body there is another section bolted to the other side and extending to the chassis*) and actually mount on the chassis - not much point otherwise.

*I have a similar setup to mount a ute crane in the back of my 2a.

John

**sclarke** · 12th March 2007, 11:11 AM

Ali, your right, they are not Mantec, but Safety Devices. My bad.

$4k, damn cheap for your life.
As John said, They go thru the body and there is legs to the Chassis. As cage is useless unless its tagged back to the chassis.
The labour content would be the killer on an exo cage like that.
CDS is about $50-60 per meter.
A cage like that has about 30 meters of material and then there is plates and bolts and welding and bending and the labour......

I made a cage for my Rally car years back and just the materials came in at $1600, then there was the 40 hours i spent to get it all the way i wanted.

Note. No defender is alike in build. They all vary some by 20mm at spots. Why??? Hand built.... well some is.
When i build sliders they are custom to the Defender. My last set the LH and RH was 25mm out in the mounting spots. So you could not just put them on the next defender.... it wont fit.

Do you like nice fitting shirts and pants...... Well i like to make my sliders and cages and other mods fit also.....

Clarkie

**Reads90** · 12th March 2007, 11:37 AM

This was my brother 90 . The cage was made for the truck , because as sclarke said no two defenders are the same and the saftey devices one can look gappy.
But this is the cage after the 90 fell of a hill climb and landed 30foot on to its roof. Here is the vid of it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOQDO2l2UNs
The cage i twisted and twisted the chassis. But it is a 1985 90 chassis and it did save my brother and his mate life . So you don't worry about thoses sort of things

**Grizzly_Adams** · 12th March 2007, 01:11 PM

I have an internal/external cage sitting at home that was made for me by Protection and Performance

Just haven't had the funds / time to sort out the legalities and get it properly fitted yet

Cost was about $3k for the creation - still gotta get it fitted yet.

**Reads90** · 12th March 2007, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams

I have an internal/external cage sitting at home that was made for me by Protection and Performance

Just haven't had the funds / time to sort out the legalities and get it properly fitted yet

Cost was about $3k for the creation - still gotta get it fitted yet.

There nice cages

**dobbo** · 12th March 2007, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by Reads90

There nice cages

I agree, but will they meet ADR's? While your at it are they CAMS certified, the way I see it if you go to the hassle of getting a cage installed you might as well get the car suited to comps for the future. Also if it's a CAMS certified cage engineering should be flown through with no hassles.

**Reads90** · 12th March 2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by dobbo

I agree, but will they meet ADR's? While your at it are they CAMS certified, the way I see it if you go to the hassle of getting a cage installed you might as well get the car suited to comps for the future. Also if it's a CAMS certified cage engineering should be flown through with no hassles.

Most of them in the UK are built to FIA regs

**dobbo** · 12th March 2007, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Reads90

Most of them in the UK are built to FIA regs

I realise this but unfortunately CAMS look at "the installation of a CAMS certified rollcage" not just the build quality.

**Reads90** · 12th March 2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by dobbo

I realise this but unfortunately CAMS look at "the installation of a CAMS certified rollcage" not just the build quality.

The FIA is more important about that too. They want to know where it attc to . No point a cage just bolted to the body panels

**dobbo** · 12th March 2007, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by Reads90

The FIA is more important about that too. They want to know where it attc to . No point a cage just bolted to the body panels

so we both agree with your post #13

get a custom cage for a hand built car because no 2 cars are the same.

Just make sure it's certified by either an international or national motorsport body upon installation else you'll only end up with a thin wallet and a broken heart or head.

But when is it considered and exo cage and not a roll cage? From my understanding (probably wrong) an exocage does not attach to the chassis nor body in any way shape or form. It runs off brushbars connected to bullbars.

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