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    Strange thing is - if you can't make forward headway, one technique is to stand on the brakes and stall out, then go through the stall recovery routine. Funnily enough even if you deliberately stall the engine your brakes will still hold on just about any hill (where there's sufficient tyre traction).

    Bunch of *******


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    I clicked on the link to the person who posted it. Info was : 20 year old; in Australia; named Debbie. Not to say that Debbie was driving, but all the other videos posted were high speed out of control things too.

    It's sad to see the Defender damaged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    yes

    Tip is.. it doesn't know
    The D2 SLABS ecu knows when reverse is selected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    The D2 SLABS ecu knows when reverse is selected.
    Critical thing though - Reverse has to be selected



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    Quote Originally Posted by Discobunny View Post
    As he goes down hill past the camera, the front wheels are locked up, so the brakes are working.
    He is standing on everything in sheer panic, clutch included
    Good to see they got out OK, no one wants to see anyone get hurt.
    Ok correct me if I am wrong the front brakes are locked, but why does the back wheels look to be rolling and not locked? Could someone explain this to me.

    As said above glad no one got hurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ak View Post
    Ok correct me if I am wrong the front brakes are locked, but why does the back wheels look to be rolling and not locked? Could someone explain this to me.

    As said above glad no one got hurt.
    The real experts can give the definite answer - this is just my guess (and I thought the same as you when I saw it) - weight is over the rear wheels, so better traction therefore still turning. Less weight over the front, so less friction and wheels lock. Additional fault revealed - CDL not engaged.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scrambler View Post
    The real experts can give the definite answer - this is just my guess (and I thought the same as you when I saw it) - weight is over the rear wheels, so better traction therefore still turning. Less weight over the front, so less friction and wheels lock. Additional fault revealed - CDL not engaged.
    Fair enough. I also thought CDL must not be engaged. Wonder if this was the case and if that was a Xtreme with Traction Control. ( Like a D2 on a steep hill with no CDL dangerous ). If not maybe there really was something wrong with the brakes.

    However I am only guessing too.

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    Firstly, the hill is steeper than it looks on the video I reckon - therefore he should not have been using the brakes. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    Firstly, the hill is steeper than it looks on the video I reckon - therefore he should not have been using the brakes. Right?
    We can only hope the driver reads this thread, or the less polite comments on YouTube. So far he would have learned to engage the CDL, to stall out in gear if traction is lost, and how to do a stall recovery in reverse.

    Add to that, it would have to be suspect whether he knows about low range or tyre pressures. How much of a driving education could he get here for free
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    Failed hill climb is one of the first things taught on courses...

    I'd have to agree that the roll was caused by in-experience.

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