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I think you guys need to look at this a little more closley. The front wheels did not lock up and as far as I can tell the brake lights did not come on, you will see dust kick up from the ground but if you watch the mag it is still turning. I think you will find that the drivers undies were filled before the roll over, I would say from the moment the vehicle started rolling backwards.:(
I think the point is, that even if the brakes did fail, he shouldn't have been using them anyway :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoTDI
All I was saying is that the driver has done nothing at all to save him/herself;)
Id beg to differ, it appears the front wheels did lock initially and anyway as these have abs the wheels will rotate, if you look closely the front wheels are rotating a lot slower in conparisson to the speed of the vehicle. Even that aside the driver is a tosser and blaming brake vaccum and ec is the biggest load of crap out. The only way any of this could have happened at that speed is inexperience. Either clutch was depressed with no brake initially or car was put into neutral with no brake initially.If either brake or hill stall the thing should have pretty much stopped where it was. My money would be on Fender was starting to labour and clutch was depressed with no brake. Once car started descent braking was not going to stop it, where it rolled is probablly where the clutch was let out. Either way an expensive lesson, but the excuse is garbage and his person will probablly be one of those morons that will blame the 4wd for everything.
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Originally Posted by DiscoTDI
I agree
Yesterday I had to reverse the Defender back down an incline (about 25 degrees or so) for about 2 car lengths. The area I was traversing was blocked by a big wash out and I had to avoid a large tree, it wasn't a straight backwards job but I had a good line and wasn't traversing the slope, the ground was very rocky and loose. Anyway into Low-R and walk it back.
Funny thing was afterwards when I had got back out of the bush and onto a track I remembered this thread. I'd just done what I knew to do, didn't skid, slid or slip at all. I just kept thinking that those guys in the video really didn't have a clue what they were doing. Fortunately they have survived and someone can now show them what to do.
If he dares get back in the Fender :D I to had similar experience Yesterday goin up steep hill "standard tyres not as grippy as i would like" could go no further So Low in reverse and back she goes with no trouble mine was a straight back down no trees or washouts to traverse
I always think about installing a roll-cage when I see videos/pictures of Defenders which have rolled.
Quite a lot of roof damage given the slow roll speed.
First thing is to put a Milford cargo barrier in. At least then there are no possible insurance hassles, and it will aid in the event of a rollover.Quote:
Originally Posted by spudboy
Haven't heard what the D3 is lke on its roof.
I hope Toyota has improved the new Troopy - though it doesn't look like it - or for Land Rover and the 07 Defender for that mater! It's a problem with most 4WD's until recently I think the manufacturers ignored the issue.
Bad case of driver error there, must've forgot the middle pedal
GQ