Thread: Defender rollover

Just had a look at the moron, in the defender, it is a bit grainy but, its pretty obvious waht he did, could get up first go, into reverse, gave it a bit, got too fast, foot on brake going backwards, paniced , turned the wheel and rolled over, If this is how they drive in the dirt I could only imagine how they drive on the road.
Also saw one on a short wheel base that roled on its side it is a reversed image, looked like a left hand drive but had Qld plates on it.

BTW Reads, the pommmie version of the reverse key start , is obviously no foot on the brake, I was taught by a legend in the aussie 4wd scene( yes he is still there and still writes) you have to have your foot on the brake to control the thing just in case it jumps. as you feel it firing you release the pedal slighly,

john

Originally Posted by Bushie

Strange thing is - if you can't make forward headway, one technique is to stand on the brakes and stall out, then go through the stall recovery routine. Funnily enough even if you deliberately stall the engine your brakes will still hold on just about any hill (where there's sufficient tyre traction).

Bunch of *******


Martyn

oops Reads
missed bushies comment, what he says is what I missed saying



john

Just read the idiots comments,
sure of themselves aren;t they, 15 times to get up a slope, commonsense would tell you to go around and try another way,
no point in blaming the vehicle for crass stupidity, hell if the blokes running to the roll are an indication of the average age of those blokes even the comment maker, well enough said, the batmobile is older than them, and they claim to be experienced!


john

Originally Posted by JohnE

BTW Reads, the pommmie version of the reverse key start , is obviously no foot on the brake, I was taught by a legend in the aussie 4wd scene( yes he is still there and still writes) you have to have your foot on the brake to control the thing just in case it jumps. as you feel it firing you release the pedal slighly,

john

This was the way Land Rover say it should be done. But you are right too. But you have to remeber we were training the thick people who call them selves the general public. and they can't tell the differance between take of the brake pedal untilll the car starts and leave the brake pedal once the car is going backwards. So to say leave the brake pedal alone was always seen as the best way to save confusion

*sigh* There's no point arguing with him, we've had the same sort of discussion when someone on here posted a story of how his mates automatic discovery ranaway from him on a downhill run and he immediately got out and blamed the automatic.

In the end nobody was proved right, everyone went away feeling miffed at each other as well as everyone still feeling they were in the right!

Yes it appears obvious he is your typical LR hater yobbo and would gleefully give any excuse to show how "crap" they are, but all that means is that he has his own opinion on them and we - though we can make assumptions - really will never know wtf happened. Maybe there was a mechanical breakdown that we didn't see / don't know about, maybe it was driver error, maybe the gradient was a LOT steaper than we can see (which is easy to do in vids), maybe maybe maybe.

We can only hope someone leans from the experience...

Originally Posted by Reads90

Well there are loads and loads of post now and he has replied to all of them. Getting a bit Sh**y too.
BTW put on a uk Landy forum and they have posted too

Yep just had another read, his real sh!tty now.

I'm struck by the idea that 15 times later, his mate is still going hell-for-leather. If at first you don't succeed, make the same mistake another 15 times... until something breaks. If you can't get up the hill 15 times, I'd say that chance of getting up the 16th is no better.

The poster claims this car has been all around Australia, without troubles - clearly not completely a POS then.

His response is to claim that he knows more than everyone else.

I'd say "Narcissistic Personality Disorder." That's my professional opinion

I'm also going to say ... STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS! He's never going to learn! Reads, you could show him how it's done, go up and down the same hill 16 times correctly, and he still wouldn't learn.

Originally Posted by scrambler

I'm struck by the idea that 15 times later, his mate is still going hell-for-leather. If at first you don't succeed, make the same mistake another 15 times... until something breaks. If you can't get up the hill 15 times, I'd say that chance of getting up the 16th is no better.

The poster claims this car has been all around Australia, without troubles - clearly not completely a POS then.

His response is to claim that he knows more than everyone else.

I'd say "Narcissistic Personality Disorder." That's my professional opinion

I'm also going to say ... STOP FEEDING THE TROLLS! He's never going to learn! Reads, you could show him how it's done, go up and down the same hill 16 times correctly, and he still wouldn't learn.

Hey, just an idea. I wonder if they had made 15 attempts at the hill whether the traction control had overheated the brakes?

It's still no excuse because they shouldn't have been using them....