Bow Shackles N Tow Straps

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19th May 2007, 10:09 PM
Ken

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Originally Posted by Disco_owner

g'day ken;

A while back I was looking for bow shackles + snacth straps and
found 4wd Megastore competitively priced ,

you mentioned that same tow straps from sling rig sold at ARB for $65.00

are you sure they are exactly same straps ?

Reason for this is that I have bought straps and quality of straps have been different , and where they snatching straps or Tow Straps ?

I believe if this is correct Snatching straps have different strech factors etc and some of them sticthings around the loop is different , some of the cheaper ones I have told the stitching to have come apart.

The strap I bought is a (Tow Strap) and is a much better quality than what is sold at ARB no doubt:)
19th May 2007, 10:32 PM
Tank

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Originally Posted by Ken

All Bow Shackles I bought have Safe Working Load SWL and are rated WLL Stamped onto the casting And the (Tow Strap) Has its own (Tested Certificate) (Aus Standard)
The (Bow Shackles) have a 4 to 1 ratio so they break at roughly 16 Tonne
The (Tow Strap) has a 4 to 1 ratio also and its a (Sling Strap) 5mtr length its breaking point is 8 Tonne and thats from a dead lift off of the ground .
The Straps,Slings,Trunk Protectors,Snatch Straps,Bow Shackles,Winch Cables,etc That Are sold at Sling Rig are of exceptional quality as they are used extensively in industrial situations.
Next time I need Recovery gear I would definately go back to these guys as not only where they very helpful but there very well priced after all (Saftey First) but when it comes to 4WDing its expensive enough as it is without getting ripped off by overpriced so called specialist shops..

Ken, sounds like you got a good buy, does this mob have an email or web address. Just a point about the 4:1 ratio you are talking about, it is called the Safety Factor (SF) and in this case it is a SF of 4 which of course means the Guaranteed Breaking Strain (GBS) in the case of the shackles is 16 tonne, but SF are used to guide Riggers on what size slings, shackles etc. to use. For Standing rigging, as in guy wires that hold a mast (radio, ship) the SF is 4, for general Purpose use, i.e. lifting, hauling loads the SF is 6, for Elevators or anything that involves lifting people the SF is 10, this of course assumes that the equipment is in perfect working order. My point is never ever use any rigging equipment, shackles, slings, tow ropes, snatch blocks to lift or haul above their SWL, even though you know what the Breaking strain is, it only takes an unseen defect to bring the Breaking strain down , with dangerous consequences, the SF is calculated to take wear and tear into the equation, take care, Regards Frank.
19th May 2007, 10:40 PM
Ken

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Originally Posted by Tank

Ken, sounds like you got a good buy, does this mob have an email or web address. Just a point about the 4:1 ratio you are talking about, it is called the Safety Factor (SF) and in this case it is a SF of 4 which of course means the Guaranteed Breaking Strain (GBS) in the case of the shackles is 16 tonne, but SF are used to guide Riggers on what size slings, shackles etc. to use. For Standing rigging, as in guy wires that hold a mast (radio, ship) the SF is 4, for general Purpose use, i.e. lifting, hauling loads the SF is 6, for Elevators or anything that involves lifting people the SF is 10, this of course assumes that the equipment is in perfect working order. My point is never ever use any rigging equipment, shackles, slings, tow ropes, snatch blocks to lift or haul above their SWL, even though you know what the Breaking strain is, it only takes an unseen defect to bring the Breaking strain down , with dangerous consequences, the SF is calculated to take wear and tear into the equation, take care, Regards Frank.

Sling Lift & Rigging PTY LTD

anthonyfakhoury@bigpond.com

PO Box 69 Welshpool DC 6986
145 Welshpool Rd WELSHPOOL WA 6106
Tel 08 9356 8611 Fax 08 9356 8644

Hope this helps

Cheers Ken
19th May 2007, 11:52 PM
Tank

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken

Sling Lift & Rigging PTY LTD

anthonyfakhoury@bigpond.com

PO Box 69 Welshpool DC 6986
145 Welshpool Rd WELSHPOOL WA 6106
Tel 08 9356 8611 Fax 08 9356 8644

Hope this helps

Cheers Ken

Ken, thanks mate, regards Frank.
20th May 2007, 01:30 AM
BMKal

SlingRig are probably the single largest supplier of lifting & rigging gear plus safety harnesses, fall arrest gear etc into the mining industry in WA. The also supply many of the major crane operators.

There was some pretty serious investigation conducted into the safety rating of equipment supplied into these industries by SlingRig and others a few years ago after a few failures (mostly in safety harnesses with shonky stitching etc). SlingRig came out of these investigations pretty well.

While the company I work for does not use SlingRig as our preferred supplier of this type of equipment, I wouldn't have any hesitation myself in purchasing any of their rated and certified gear.
20th May 2007, 07:05 AM
rick130

In NSW, two companies that have excellent, rated products are Beaver Industries at Wetherill Pk, http://www.beaver.com.au/companyprofile.htm. Beaver are the suppliers of the Black Rat range of 4WD recovery gear,and
Spanset Industries http://www.spanset.com.au/index.htm at Emu Plains who are webbing manufacturers and make possibly the best slings, snatch straps, toe ropes, ratchet ties in the business.
In an independent test I once read, Spanset came out on top with their snatch straps, etc, and Black Rat weren't far behind and both were well in front of the well known brands.
20th May 2007, 07:15 AM
p38arover

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Originally Posted by rick130

Spanset Industries http://www.spanset.com.au/index.htm at Emu Plains who are webbing manufacturers and make possibly the best slings, snatch straps, toe ropes, ratchet ties in the business.

Now that's good to know. They are not far from me.

I'd heard of them but not what they made.

Ron
20th May 2007, 08:30 AM
Pedro_The_Swift

Perhaps you Gentlemen would do the rest of us a favour,,,
and add those companies to the LINKS Forum,,
Ken, you could even do a REVIEW of those products.

;)
20th May 2007, 10:27 AM
Tank

Quote:

Originally Posted by rick130

In NSW, two companies that have excellent, rated products are Beaver Industries at Wetherill Pk, http://www.beaver.com.au/companyprofile.htm. Beaver are the suppliers of the Black Rat range of 4WD recovery gear,and
Spanset Industries http://www.spanset.com.au/index.htm at Emu Plains who are webbing manufacturers and make possibly the best slings, snatch straps, toe ropes, ratchet ties in the business.
In an independent test I once read, Spanset came out on top with their snatch straps, etc, and Black Rat weren't far behind and both were well in front of the well known brands.

Thanks for the extra information, Regards Frank.
20th May 2007, 01:22 PM
jik22

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Originally Posted by Ken

I will NEVER shop at ARB AGAIN:D

I think you just need to shop there with caution...they were actually quite reasonable for my roof bars and I got a tyre repair kit cheaper than on eBay, but they do seem to take the **** for most stuff, I've found.

If that's where you got your tow "bar", I'd have said that was quite reasonable too?

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