I have hired a Floor stipping machine in the past. Bit like a wide blade that has a motor that vibrates the blade. If the old adhesive is rubber based such resaflex then its a XXXX of a job no matter what you use.
Ian
hi guys..
non landie related... but a quick question to all you handy blokes / lass's out there..
whats the easiest way of getting tile adhesive off concrete? we are just ripping the kitchen out and the tiles are coming up from the floor really nicely.. however its leaving the grey adhesive behind.. is there any tricks to getting thei stuff up as before i had to chip it off bit by bit and it took days... and left the slab in a mess too!
Thanks in advance
Steve
I have hired a Floor stipping machine in the past. Bit like a wide blade that has a motor that vibrates the blade. If the old adhesive is rubber based such resaflex then its a XXXX of a job no matter what you use.
Ian
Mate
What are you going to put back down?
If tiles and the old adhesive is cement based and that hard to shift it must be stuck well, so why waste time chipping away, just go over it with your next lot of tiles.
Maybe an acid etch with hydrochloric acid and a wash down wit H2O but usually only if it is fairly smooth.
If the finish is rough on the concrete or old tile adhesive it will give you a better mechanical grip to the substrate. All the better.
Cheers
Hagus
Last edited by p38arover; 17th June 2007 at 05:08 PM.
hi steve i'm a tiler and believe me you don't want to just leave it and re-tile over the top of it - it'll be 10 times harder to get a good job at the end.
the easiest way for a diy'er is to use a 4 1/2 inch angle grinder with a diamond blade available at bunnings for as little as $100.
sprat a little water down first to try and hold the dust but it's going to get dusty.
tip: a good job is all in the prep i.e. floors and walls as flat as possible
jason
Hi, I'm a Tiler by trade.
You pretty much need mechanical help or it will take forever by hand with bolster and hammer. A mini jack hammer or rotary hammer drill with the stop hammer function is what you need. Depending on the type of adhesive used previously it can be very hard and slow work. You may not need to remove all of it. As long as its not flakey or too lumpy you can often just tile over the top of it all, once you have gotten rid of most of it. Don't worry about it chipping away the slab, the new adhesive will cover that.
edit, just got pipped by Jason in responding! Two mottos to live by, "If in doubt, grout!" and "Why use a hand tool when you can use a power tool!"
cheers Ben.
Last edited by Ben_R; 17th June 2007 at 05:17 PM.
I've just about finished a reno, half the house is re-tiled (big sigh).
Pop down to the hardware & get yourself one of those cheap Ozito jackhammers, about $70 from memory. It comes with a 40mm wide chisel which, with just a little practice, you can easily skim the adhesive off the concrete without burrowing divets in it. If you're only doing the kitchen it won't take long at all. As the tradie's have said, do take the time to get the surface as smooth as you can, it's much better to trowel the adhesive on the floor than butter each tile.
If it's a concrete/ceramic tile type adehsive then as above, grinder, jackhammer.
If it's rubberised adhesive ......small amounts of petrol, 1 sq foot at a time and burn it.
Just do small patches, and have an extinquisher handy.
Wear a mask and ventilate the area well.
When it's finished just wash with water.
Yes but if he's doing it by himself to his own property ...........
When OH&S stop me doing things myself to my own property I will then realise we are in a totatiltarian police state, give up and go live in a hut on a beach in some asian or african country.
Or if you want to be a complete in your application to OH&S then get a tile/rubber adesive burner - they are on wheels with a fixed burner and you just roll over the affected areas......
Does exactly the same as small amounts of petrol, but takes longer, and it meets the OH&S requirements
Thanks for all the info guys.. its all very appreciated!
To clarify a few things... its a cement based adhesive on a very flat smooth slab sitting at no more than 3-4mm thick.. its also adhered to the slab very well!
therefore petrol is outsounded like fun! but the jackhammer and the grinder sound interesting..
the tiles are up.. (the missus is great with a knackered wood chisel) they came up easily just leaving the glue behind,
Tiles will be going back down, however we are completely changing the layout of the kitchen so an island is being put where tiles were.. so needs to be dropped onto the slab not on the cement, and floor cupboards the same.. hence the reason i need to rip most of the adhesive up.
i have both the jackhammer (a decentish 1400w one) and i have a 4 and 9" angle grinder. jackhammer usage i understand but not too sure on how you would grind this stuff off with a diamond blade? anyone care to expand a technique on this?
thanks loads again
Steve
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