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    Im convinced, all car yards are sharks.

    last night the car yard that had the P38 I liked asked me to bring the Disco in so they could value it to trade in on the Range Rover. ( I wasnt convinced weather I wanted it). Any way I recon its worth $10000 as a trade in. My Disco is a 1997 Es with every option available. its done 155000 and the body work and interiour are excelant. The car is in excelent condition. I bouht it 8 months ago for $14500.
    So I look around the yard and he has three discos there all are above $12000.

    The head salesman says what do want for it? $10000 I say is a fair price I think. He says he miles away $5000 was the most its worth. WTF I think .
    I said mate your on drugs that cars worth $10000 all day as a trade I want to trade it in not ****ing give it away. He says but is a v8 and no one will buy v8 now. Ok so Why is it im looking at buying a v8 Range Rover off You? well they are hard to sell. Youve got three Discos in the yard and one says 14999 cost price!! he says buts its a TDI. I says yse buts its 1 year older has 205000 klms on it and its just a standard trim. !! mate your car is worth $5000 to me Ysterday I bought.... I said dont give me the standard car yard ***** about buying this that and the other, I used to work n a car yard i know your tactics and there is no way you could buy this car from the auction for that, mate keep your range rover buy the way its got liner problumes anyway so I dont want it!

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    Were you ever NOT convinced? They are there to make money!

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    You only just figured that out?

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    So he's a shark simply because he thinks your cars worth less then you do?

    Is'nt that how his business works?

    can't stand used car salesman myself either, but he's there to make money, simple as that.

    Sell your car privately if that's what you think it's worth.

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    Your looking at buying a P38, obviously you can afford to burn money. Of course he's going to try and pull the wool over your eyes, and get the most profit out of you.

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    Regrettably, that is about what they are worth as a trade-in.

    Your best option is to sell privately.

    I was talking to a dealer last week who ssaw an L322 Rangie with 30,000km on the clock for about $50,000.

    It was out of warranty so the car sales yards didn't want it.

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    Question Car salesmen.

    When I was looking at a used Defender Td5 four and a bit years ago the salesman asked if I wanted to trade my 300Tdi Disco on it and I said "NO",I'll sell it privately".
    Went for a ride in the Defender, got back to the yard and his 'orrible boss whispered something to him and and he turned to me and said "Give you 12 grand for it".
    They won't take no for an answer salesmen that's why they are what they are.
    I didn't buy his vehicle, bought a new one for about 6 grand more and flogged my Disco for 20 grand.
    And then he accused me of being "unprincipled"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Hmmm, no offence folks but isn’t all this a little naïve? Forget the industry, a business is out to maximize its profits, if you can buy or make something for a $1 and sell it for $3, kudo’s to you. If you buy a burger for $3 and it cost $.20 are we up in arms over it……..unlikely. Of course a dealer in this case is going to offer bottom dollar, moreso on older vehicles, so they can maximize their return plus cover their oncosts. Pretty simple really. Just like if you choose to sell it privately, your not out to sell it at a loss, you are out to maximize your $$$, so why do people have a hissy fit when it is reversed? If you want to get best dollar you sell it privately as a general rule. Also there is good and not so good in any industry whether buying a car or getting a cup of coffee. When I was looking to sell my D3, I had more than one dealer tell me to sell it privately as they couldn’t get what I wanted for it. I pretty much knew that but it was worth a shot to get a guage. If taking a car yard as an example, the price they buy ones vehicle for then has overheads attached to it eg leasing the yard, staff wages, phone calls, insurance, commissions, plus profit. IF you sell it yourself you aren’t incurring the costs of running a business and hence sell at a higher price privately. Sorry but just annoys me when people don’t get their way with a particular industry that therefore the whole industry must be slated. For the record……..I have never sold a car in my life, however I have owned/ run businesses, so have an understanding of how a business operates, but can also understand why people get upset when they don’t get what they want,

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    Got to say as nice as a 97 ES V8 is, I would only offer a car yard about $8k max, there are heaps of 97tdis around at present for around $10k.
    It is not fair or nice, but trade in unless you are buying a $50k plus vehicle is bugger all especially on a V8 Disco.
    Personally I would keep it as a comp/beach/ hard work vehicle with that trade in. You could try privately to sell it for $10k. At a $5k trade in you would probablly be better off asking for a cash price for the P38, get them to drop then sell the Disco privately and you may come close to your $10k.
    I know I am not impressed what my insurance company want to insure my 2000 defender for $22k with $12k worth of accessories.
    I found with my 84 Rangie was better to sell it private and offer a cash deal for the Fender.
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    Yep human nature I surpose, when we buy something we want to steel it and when we sell something we want as much as we can get for it if not more than its worth.

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