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    Geelong plant closure

    I know this is probably going to open a can of worms but this Ford closing down their engine plant is starting to get on my nerves.

    More because of the repetative TV coverage of the same few negative veiws of the situation.

    I know the shock of it is going to get people upset but it sounds like it is going to be wound down over 3 years (but thats only going on what was said on the news), I think most of the workers in the plant and a lot of their suppliers should be able to find work to replace what they are doing at some time in the next 3 years.

    No body has total security at work, my last job I was at for 8 1/2 years until we lost some contracts and one of the onsite guys had to go and I found a job first.

    There is no doubt that these new IR laws are having an impact on the way we have been working and I know that unionists dont like them but I dont think this would be the reason behind what ford are doing.

    Ford is struggling all over the world as we all know with LR looking like it will be up for sale again and this will be all part of that.

    I think it is enough of the attitude that we should just expect that our job will be there forever, it has never been like that in reality unless you work for your self and I think the IR laws will sort them selves out, dodgy bosses will go out of business due to not being able to get Good staff for no money and the good employers will stand out and will end up with the best staff.

    I dont believe this has anything to do with politics, and im sick of seeing the very upset women on TV blaming the government for the closure and the snipits of guys saying they have no future when that isnt the case, but thats the editors again making things sound worse than they are.

    There are other jobs out there, some people will move away from Geelong to get work and others will get jobs with the other manufacturers in the city and some will work in Melbourne but there will definately be 600 jobs in Geelong and the surrounding areas.

    Yes we all feel for you lot that are going to have to change your lives but thats all it is, it's a change and sometimes change is good and you have 3 years to get used to it.

    Ok now time for you to agree or disagree Im not having a go at anyone inperticular, I know there are people from Geelong on here and I hope you wont be affected by this or you will be back in secure employment asap.

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    There will be around 1200 jobs going in relation to Fords 600 employees

    All the component suppliers, o/s maintenance companies even the lunch truck girl.....it keeps going and going

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    adds up to alot of people looking for jobs
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    Better than running at a loss and closing the entire lot down costing 3500+ jobs though isn't it....

    The 'million dollar question'... How many employees there are driving a less than 5 year old Ford?

    I know at Mitsubishi they had less than 5% of workers driving Mitsubishi products... If people purchased what they make it all helps....

    Lets face it, with tarrifs as they are local car manufacturers are going to have to tighten belts....

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    I worked for Ford 25 years ago in Geelong. They kept threatening to close the plant and move operations to the Philippines every time we asked for a pay rise.

    The Australian market is too small to support international industry. We will never compete with Asia on cost.

    When I was at Ford we had 7000 workers, they have been shedding staff ever since the "Button Car Plan" of the 80's.

    And the discount to employees who buy a car was about $200.00 then. You could get a better deal at any New Car place.

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    Australians think Ford and Holden exist to be great Aussie icons looking after the country. They forget that they are just the arms of large American business that are only in Australia to make a profit. If they can't make a profit they will alter what they are doing to try and do so. If that doesn't work they will take their bat and ball and go home. Whitness Nissan "Australia"
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    Quote Originally Posted by tombraider View Post
    The 'million dollar question'... How many employees there are driving a less than 5 year old Ford?
    you got it in one..
    cant have your cake and eat it too..
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    The engine plant closure is stated to be because Australians are buying smaller cars - not Falcons and similar. Considering they have been being told to buy smaller cars for years, it should hardly come as a surprise to find it is finally happening, possibly helped by high fuel prices.

    Considering that there is said to be a major and increasing shortage of labour at present, it does not appear to be a particularly bad time to have a plant shut down. I note the federal government is providing assistance to the area - there was none of that when the state government shut down the timber industry round here in the middle of a record drought (to get the green votes); the numbers may have been much smaller, but the proportion of people affected was probably larger, causing several towns to turn into pretty much ghost towns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain_Rightfoot View Post
    Australians think Ford and Holden exist to be great Aussie icons looking after the country. They forget that they are just the arms of large American business that are only in Australia to make a profit. If they can't make a profit they will alter what they are doing to try and do so. If that doesn't work they will take their bat and ball and go home. Whitness Nissan "Australia"
    And VW, Even GMH has had to move operations from Fishermans bend to Elizibeth in SA as running 2 engine plants in OZ was just too exy for GM to justify.

    I know it's a lot of people looking for work Ray but they have 3 years to do so.

    Natural attrition will make up about a third of that anyway and the other 2/3's are getting a push into doing something else.

    Dont forget, in places like that, someone retires about once a month and there is always a turn over of staff, they just wont put any new full time staff on in the next 3 years and use casuals and then move some of what they have left through to the chassis and testing facility and some will get shifted to Broadmedows if they want to move up to Melbourne.

    There will probably in the end be 150 to 200 people that will be getting jobs outside ford from this in reality.

    What peaves me more than anything is the TV and union beat up and no rational thinking goes into it just scare campain...."This could happen to you" sort of thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kaa45 View Post
    And the discount to employees who buy a car was about $200.00 then. You could get a better deal at any New Car place.
    big deal, why would they invest in your future when the workers wouldnt...?

    somethings would be worth the extra bucks i would have thought...

    i watched the eagle farm plant slowly die and often spoke to a lot of the guys from there, always amused me they wanted ford to give them security but they wouldnt buy something they built cause they were crap..

    got what they deserved i thought but as always they took the good guys with them.....
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