Speeding On The M5 & M7

**Redback** · 30th July 2007, 11:39 AM

Subject: SPEED CAMERAS. NO CHANCE OF AVOIDING A FINE IF YOU
SPEED ON M5 & M7
M5 and the M7 are now equipped with Point to Point speed
devices. Once
You enter the M7 for instance you pass the etag and it beeps.
At the same
Time a camera takes a photo of your car and records the exact
time. For those
Who have exited the M7 they would be aware that upon exit the
etag system
Beeps again as you leave.
At the same time another camera at that point takes a photo of
the car
And the time. Then the computer calculates the time it has
taken you to
Travel between the two points and calculates your speed. If you
have completed
The clocked journey too fast you are given a speeding ticket.
At the present time the speed limit is 100K.P.H. and you have a
Tolerance of 102 and no more. One fraction over that speed and
you are issued with a
Fine automatically.
Also remember that school zone cameras are not speed tolerant.
Anything over, even 41, is a fine. This means people will be
doing 38 to
avoid any differences in their speedo readings. Remember, this
is going
to be a very costly experience for some drivers. It is also
going to mean
vehicles will be travelling at 95 in order to ensure that no
ticket is
issued.
What a shock some drivers are going to have when they have used
this
roadway
for a week and get a weeks tickets BOTH WAYS.
Of course your license will also be recalled for three months
and you
Know the rest. Take the advice and if you ignore it remember
this email when
You pay all those fines.
Also, remember that now with the new legislation, fighting a
speed
Camera fines is almost impossible.
You must prove the device is faulty and if you are not a
technician
Working on them, you have no chance of beating the fine.
The Pacific Highway has a set and these are recognised as large
steel
Frames over the lanes with a speed camera and some distance up
the road is
Another large metal frame with a speed camera.
These new point to point systems are being put onto any
expressway or
highway where vehicles are not able to exit between those
points.

**hiline** · 30th July 2007, 11:44 AM

oh what joy it is

the ways of the modern world

**grumpybastard** · 30th July 2007, 12:14 PM

Yep .... where you spend 90 % of your time checking the speedo and 10% looking where you are going..

Victorians are pretty used to this now!

Victoria, where dangerous driving is okay just as long as you aren't speeding when you're doing it.

**spudboy** · 30th July 2007, 12:37 PM

You need to fit some "James Bond" rotating number plates!

Go through the first camera with one plate, then flick to the 2nd plate for the exit camera....

**Ben** · 30th July 2007, 12:45 PM

Or Johnny English camera-seeking missiles

**GEK064** · 30th July 2007, 12:48 PM

Is there s sign to mention the point to point system before entry? I thought speed 'traps' had to be signed?...for such a beautiful and free country we sure do live in a police state....:-(

**redfender** · 30th July 2007, 08:00 PM

speed cameras need to be signposted 3 times by law
they cannot even set up a mobile without a sign

if it is slightly true i think we will all get off

**Discopug** · 30th July 2007, 09:29 PM

even in victoria they tell ( warn you ) about the point to point speed detection on the hume hwy just north of melbourne. So I would be surprised if nsw felt that it wasn't a requirement.
Having said all that they would have to give more than 2% tollerance for speed variation because none of these are on straight stretches of road and you dont have to be a rocket scientist to know that if one takes the outside of every corner their distance will be more ( signifcantly more than 2% ) than one who takes the inside of every corner.
To test this theory I drove at my standard 110kmh into melb where the posted speed is 100kmh and I am yet to recieve a fine ( that was easter ) . Yes when my speedo reads 110kmh I am going at that speed.
I wish the guy that went on a rampage recently in a tank and knocked over telecomunications towers had a beef with speed cameras. If they had to be repaired all the time then they may not be such a lucrative source of income.

**p38arover** · 30th July 2007, 09:55 PM

Baz, from where did the story come?

It appears to be a hoax and has done the rounds of a lot of Aussie car fora.

See this from the M7 website:

These are the standard speed camera signs seen on roads across the state and do not mean that any new or secret speed system operates on the Westlink M7. ...

Ron

**jsp** · 30th July 2007, 10:16 PM

We allready have a system in Australia, its in SA, WA, NSW, VIC and I think NT as well, its a point to point system with at least 40 points around the country, and they are not signed. Its quite impressive, I have had the pleasure of supporting bits of it and seeing it in action. Currently it only monitors heavy vehicles but seeing it running in real time all they have to do is click the "all moving things" type check box and even the blow flies would get tickets!

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