forget the prado, go for one of the other two.
Obviously I would say the rangie but I have a mate who has a Paj and thinks its great.
He will learn one day !
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forget the prado, go for one of the other two.
Obviously I would say the rangie but I have a mate who has a Paj and thinks its great.
He will learn one day !
Get the Defender before you get a DVT* then. It provides exercise and circulation in traffic.Quote:
Originally Posted by walker
Just imagine this : you're driving slowly in traffic, you glance out the window and see your reflection in the large glass panes of the shops around you.
Would you rather see yourself in a Defender :cool:
a Playdo :(
or a Pajero :(
Here's a link to a video where I took the Defender and a new NS Diesel Pajero 4WDing.
The Paj did okay, it scraped it's underbelly countless times, but performed well. The outcome - The Paj driver likes his Pajero and will keep it, BUT he's now in the market for a Defender for the real stuff.
Another mate with a Paj went and bought a 200Tdi Defender to do the Simpson Desert in, he then sold it after the trip as he had 5 cars and the Defender was a ute, but if it'd been a wagon he would have kept it.
*Deep Vein Thrombosis
The Pajero would be my choice too, out of those 3.
Baz.
June 07 4WD Monthly has a Prado Vs Paj comparo.
I hate to say it here too but the Pajero would be my pick to. When you look at them from every angle they stack up as well or maybe even better than ( the diesels even have rear locker standard I think ) a D3 for value for money when you have a good look at what your getting, and there are more dealers around than LR dealers in the bush.
Well I am completely biased, but I'd be going for a RR Vogue which was originally purchased with the 5 year warranty, so it will still be under full manufacturers warranty for another year or two.
I got a 2003 HSE TD6 with 100,000 Km on it for $58K. It had done a lot of highway work (hence reasonably high KMs) but was in almost mint condition inside and out. Warranty expires at the end of 2008. The attention to detail on the car is fantastic, and the fit and finish is excellent.
There's no comparison between pulling up somewhere in a Rangie compared to the Jap stuff.
If you get rear Air Con on the Pajero, you can't get Factory Difflock - not even if you beg.Quote:
Originally Posted by ak
My mate couldn't get over the mentality of that marketing strategy, so it's A/C and an ARB Locker.
But I reckon you can get a TDV6 D3 if you look hard enough.
I won't suggest which 4WD to go with because that is personal choice.
If you can pick up a TDV6 SE for under $70K then you would be lucky. It will be most likely a MY2005 meaning that it will be an early build which tend to have a few more electrical problems than MY2006/7 - this is my observation being an owner of a MY2005 and knowing 2 others with MY2005's.
To get into an TDV6 SE you will probably need to set your level of finance a bit higher to get what you want (leather, e-diff, etc...).
The other more pertanant consideration is that buying 2nd hand will limit the amount of factory warranty left and I can tell you that the D3 is not a backyard repairer and if you can buy it with a useful extended warranty then consider that as well. I wish mine had an extended warranty. LR don't offer one yet for the D3 and that concerns me considering the amount of labour that has been spent on mine by the Dealer to fix all those "interesting" electrical and mechanical faults.
Finally another consideration is the scarcity of Authorised LR dealers around the country with sufficient knowledge to fix unplaned faults on the D3. This is a big worry for 4WD touring. I have a mate who had 1st hand experienc of the unhelpful LR Customer Service Rep after his D3 broke down on the Gibb River Road and was then flatbed trucked to Darwin and finally after more grief the D3 was trucked to Melbourne and finally fixed - it took 6 weeks and destroyed his outback trip and cost him an immense amount of grief and money. He unfortunately has lost confidence in the D3 he has and is considering what to do in the future for a 4WD.
Chris
Walker....Quote:
Originally Posted by walker
Your a sucker for the dealerships hey?
Mate, they can't get parts for Prado either (aside from filters)...
Local guys here wait 4-8 weeks for parts from the Dealers... Try Adelaide, same delay....
No point having a Prado for the dealer networks if they dont have the stock!
Also on the Prado, drive corrugations in one, I mean REAL corrugations and watch the dashboard crumble.
I'm not talking 10 minutes of "oh crap this is bu.u.u.u.uu.umpy" stuff, I'm talking 'outback highway touring corrugations' of hour or more...
2 Prados here both lost most of the dash, cracked bullbars and some welds, both need new springs and shocks... And all this on 1 trip
Then theres the Paj...
Great engine, nice chassis and the most useless TC system on the planet.
Do NOT expect the Paj to survive the Madigan line.
Thats enough for now..... but seriously.... The grass always looks greener the other side....
If I was in that situation, it would be lose the wagon, get a dual cab ute....
Or dare I say it, a current ST-L 3.0L Nissan...
ask Captian_Rightfoot about the Prado that was on his trip to geo survey hill (middle of the simpson desert) a couple of years ago, rear diff didn't last to long, not sure about that independant suspension when there is no tracks to followQuote:
Originally Posted by walker
in saying that i know of two guys that drive there prado's all over aus including canning stock route, gunbarrel etc on standard tyres and suspension with no drama's
mate at least you are getting out there amongst it...i'm biting at the bit to do another trip out there
i didn't see another land rover for the three days i was on the simpson, it was school holidays so there must have been hundreds of other makes cruising in and around the simpson, i didn't come across anybody that had a major mechanical issue...well except for mine (clutch master cylinder and heater matrix thingy), i understand that the few days that i was there was only a small snap shot...i think if you have a well prepared and maintained vehicle by the law of averages you should be right