Operation 4 or so lift

oh sorry, thought you were talking about the replacement SLS bags,

If you dont mind me asking what was the lengths, rates and cost of the springs that phil worked out for you?

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Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

Dont be upset I would still like you fit them, the equipment Im getting is considerably cheaper then the price of what you qouted or you can get them for an offer I couldnt refuse

if your still intrested I would like you to fit it all and if you dont want to thats cool to

Im greatful for your help and and most of the info you provided still applies

others like Slunnie helped and what did he want in return good to also know that your help has a profit margin to it mmmmmmm

on second thoughts dont help and dont install thats just plain nasty I thought thats what forums where a place to help each other not for finacial gain

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Discowhite and profit margin do not go hand in hand.
Discowhite covering his own costs to make such a big modification work out properly through his own generosity sounds more like the plan of attack.

Personally I'd go with the expensive variants of the shocks and springs, at least you'll get a car half enjoyable to drive on the road as opposed to wondering if this is the drive you'll be pulling the suspension down and replacing the whole lot on the side of the road which is usually associated with a cheaper option.


In short do what I have done, if you cannot afford the best variants do without till you can.

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Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

Just like the episode on a 4x4 is born

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Except a RRC chassis (used in a 4x4 is born) does not have a watts linkage on it's suspension setup.

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Originally Posted by dobbo

Discowhite and profit margin do not go hand in hand.
Discowhite covering his own costs to make such a big modification work out properly through his own generosity sounds more like the plan of attack.

Personally I'd go with the expensive variants of the shocks and springs, at least you'll get a car half enjoyable to drive on the road as opposed to wondering if this is the drive you'll be pulling the suspension down and replacing the whole lot on the side of the road which is usually associated with a cheaper option.


In short do what I have done, if you cannot afford the best variants do without till you can.

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I hear ya mate but Lovells Springs over Dobinson Lovells been tested by Slunnie in this size Dobinson havent

Pro comp shocks, the guys that do have them love them from what I understand if they b y chance fail thats on me

Now as for Phil he was charging me $400 to basicly fit shocks and springs no real other mod other then that, I was going to do the other mods x member etc

and I accepted that fee not having a Dig at him its not my nature however if Graeme Cooper was charging me $350 for similar work long story short he wasnt doing me a favour and yes he was making money off it

Again its all I wanna say on my behalf no hard feeling if he doesnt ever want assist me well thats life there others

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Except a RRC chassis (used in a 4x4 is born) does not have a watts linkage on it's suspension setup.

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yeah you know what I mean hehehehehehe

Put it this way walk into a suspension place willing to do the job, get a quote on doing the whole job from transforming your car into Slunnies complete with engineering. At a guess I'd expect $6000 - $8000 to be a fair price. (if you'd get anyone to do it)

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Originally Posted by dobbo

Put it this way walk into a suspension place willing to do the job, get a quote on doing the whole job from transforming your car into Slunnies complete with engineering. At a guess I'd expect $6000 - $8000 to be a fair price. (if you'd get anyone to do it)

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Well not really

Spring at most $500
Shocks at most $ 800
pair of bump stops at most $400
ABS and brake lines at most $400
Cross Member to be modded 1hr work and material at Most $100

labour at most $1000

Total $3200

Im up for $1400 so far springs shocks rear air bags pump air tank


Unless you get an extreme kit from Equip or scorpion

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Originally Posted by dobbo

Discowhite and profit margin do not go hand in hand.
Discowhite covering his own costs to make such a big modification work out properly through his own generosity sounds more like the plan of attack.

Personally I'd go with the expensive variants of the shocks and springs, at least you'll get a car half enjoyable to drive on the road as opposed to wondering if this is the drive you'll be pulling the suspension down and replacing the whole lot on the side of the road which is usually associated with a cheaper option.


In short do what I have done, if you cannot afford the best variants do without till you can.

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There is a lot of merit in this. I've tried a lot of things, and developed a lot of things to a setup that I know works very well. As soon as you depart from that then it's up to you to make it work, but it wont be right straight out of the box. The shock setup was the trickiest bit in my opinion and just sticking in any other shock (unless adjustable somehow) wont give you the right balance on the 4WD. I'm happy to show the shock dyno sheets etc from the modifications (which are different to that pictured on my website) so that you can buy something else that may be appropriate, or so that you can modify them to suit. If the shocks that you're looking at come in comfort and sport specs they may also work. If you're not into heavy touring perhaps (as much as I hate to say it!) the Rancho 9000 or adjustable Tough Dogs may be another option.

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There is a lot of merit in this. I've tried a lot of things, and developed a lot of things to a setup that I know works very well. As soon as you depart from that then it's up to you to make it work, but it wont be right straight out of the box. The shock setup was the trickiest bit in my opinion and just sticking in any other shock (unless adjustable somehow) wont give you the right balance on the 4WD. I'm happy to show the shock dyno sheets etc from the modifications (which are different to that pictured on my website) so that you can buy something else that may be appropriate, or so that you can modify them to suit. If the shocks that you're looking at come in comfort and sport specs they may also work. If you're not into heavy touring perhaps (as much as I hate to say it!) the Rancho 9000 or adjustable Tough Dogs may be another option.

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the procomp seem to have the travel I need more then 10 inch are you saying perhaps go a different way Slunnie

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Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

Well not really

Spring at most $500
Shocks at most $ 800
pair of bump stops at most $400
ABS and brake lines at most $400
Cross Member to be modded 1hr work and material at Most $100

labour at most $1000

Total $3200

Im up for $1400 so far springs shocks rear air bags pump air tank


Unless you get an extreme kit from Equip or scorpion

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At the moment all I can think of that you have forgoton is:

• castor ball correction and/or cranked radius arms
• engineering (to make it legal)
• custom front shaft
• custom rear shaft (remove rotorflex and get uni fitted)
• Modification to the watts linkage (as mentioned previously)

That should put a few more pennies on it for you.