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22nd August 2007, 09:43 AM
HAK
Quote:
Originally Posted by dobbo

At the moment all I can think of that you have forgoton is:

castor ball correction and/or cranked radius arms
engineering (to make it legal)
custom front shaft
custom rear shaft (remove rotorflex and get uni fitted)
Modification to the watts linkage (as mentioned previously)
That should put a few more peenies on it for you.
that it be wright SLUNNIE hehehehehehehe
22nd August 2007, 09:55 AM
HAK

Wow isnt there a mixed feeling about lifting a Discovery 2 I thought I would call Graeme Coopers Automotive reason being that according to LRA you lift D2 3.5 inch before issues I called Graeme Coopers about a month ago and was qouted around $1700 installed

I thought to my self OK this 4 inch business is getting messy

Well Graeme coopers advised today they only lift them 40mm

What yesterday isnt today it seems
22nd August 2007, 09:56 AM
Slunnie

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

the procomp seem to have the travel I need more then 10 inch are you saying perhaps go a different way Slunnie

The travel is easy to get from almost any brand, it's more the shock rate - the bump and rebound stiffness of the shock and the way the stiffness' change with shock speeds etc.
22nd August 2007, 10:01 AM
Slunnie
Quote:
Originally Posted by dobbo

At the moment all I can think of that you have forgoton is:

castor ball correction and/or cranked radius arms
engineering (to make it legal)
custom front shaft
custom rear shaft (remove rotorflex and get uni fitted)
Modification to the watts linkage (as mentioned previously)
That should put a few more pennies on it for you.
The D2 seems to have more castor than the classic coil landys and I wouldn't alter the radius arms and there are no castor balls with it being a king pin setup. If I went down this route I would check the viabiility of altering the radius arm mounts to rotate the entire axle.

Engineering - yep

Greasable front shaft - yep, when the OE one wears out. If you keep breaking OE greasable ones then you need to have a big bertha fitted.

Rear shaft - I'd leave the rotoflex in if possible and unlike the classic coilers these don't undergo a significant angle change when lifting, though if you run big tyres and start breaking them, then change it all over to a uni-uni tailshaft.
22nd August 2007, 10:06 AM
mrapocalypse

You people really know a lot of stuff! I mean like a LOT of stuff......

My shockies are a nice yellow colour! Does that help?:D
22nd August 2007, 10:07 AM
HAK

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slunnie

The travel is easy to get from almost any brand, it's more the shock rate - the bump and rebound stiffness of the shock and the way the stiffness' change with shock speeds etc.

I did say that this was out of my depth mmmmmmmm

with the Pro comps I know a few that have them on there rangie and swear by them at that Ill take the chance what worries me more are the other things as for the rear the air bag suspension should elemenate to much rebound I hope
22nd August 2007, 10:10 AM
HAK

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrapocalypse

You people really know a lot of stuff! I mean like a LOT of stuff......

My shockies are a nice yellow colour! Does that help?:D

Slunnie's the man if he cant do it no one can
22nd August 2007, 10:40 AM
Redback

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

Wow isnt there a mixed feeling about lifting a Discovery 2 I thought I would call Graeme Coopers Automotive reason being that according to LRA you lift D2 3.5 inch before issues I called Graeme Coopers about a month ago and was qouted around $1700 installed

I thought to my self OK this 4 inch business is getting messy

Well Graeme coopers advised today they only lift them 40mm

What yesterday isnt today it seems

Thats bump stop height, which equates to 1.5"/40mm, standard bump stop height for a D2 is 50mm/2"

In other words LRA will only go 1.5" over the standard bumpstop height of 2" to 3.5" which is the same as G Cooper and all Rover places.

Forget anything relating to other Rovers (ie) Disco1/RRC/Defender when lifting a D2.

It's all different:cool:

Baz.
22nd August 2007, 12:46 PM
dullbird

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

Dont be upset I would still like you fit them, the equipment Im getting is considerably cheaper then the price of what you qouted or you can get them for an offer I couldnt refuse

if your still intrested I would like you to fit it all and if you dont want to thats cool to

Im greatful for your help and and most of the info you provided still applies

others like Slunnie helped and what did he want in return good to also know that your help has a profit margin to it mmmmmmm

on second thoughts dont help and dont install thats just plain nasty I thought thats what forums where a place to help each other not for finacial gain

mmmmmm this is not what i heard!!!!!
and you would of been getting more than shock and spring fitment!!!!!

and this is not in relation to this situation BUT yes the forum is where people help each other but on the other hand so what if a person was to make a little proffit????? would you walk up to someone that you spoke to once or twice on a forum and expect them to fit for free or cheap as a favour, if you had spoken to graeme cooper twice on here and took your car to him and asked him to fit your springs would you expect it at cost and him to not make any profit???? from what i have read NOT just on this post seems to me that you have heaps of help from people phil included............

phil is not out to make money off people, although i think he sould as is work is of very good quality and quite a few people on here would vouch for that.......and the stuff i have brought off him has been considerably cheaper then some others, i have at times had to hassel him to give me a REAL price as he was undercutting him self as he didn't want to charge me too much....

you say you except his fee and your not having a dig although you make him out to be some sort of opotunist and all he wants is to make money.......

very unfair of you i think consider the free info he has given you
22nd August 2007, 01:18 PM
tombraider

Quote:

Originally Posted by dullbird

mmmmmm this is not what i heard!!!!!
and you would of been getting more than shock and spring fitment!!!!!

and this is not in relation to this situation BUT yes the forum is where people help each other but on the other hand so what if a person was to make a little proffit????? would you walk up to someone that you spoke to once or twice on a forum and expect them to fit for free or cheap as a favour, if you had spoken to graeme cooper twice on here and took your car to him and asked him to fit your springs would you expect it at cost and him to not make any profit???? from what i have read NOT just on this post seems to me that you have heaps of help from people phil included............

phil is not out to make money off people, although i think he sould as is work is of very good quality and quite a few people on here would vouch for that.......and the stuff i have brought off him has been considerably cheaper then some others, i have at times had to hassel him to give me a REAL price as he was undercutting him self as he didn't want to charge me too much....

you say you except his fee and your not having a dig although you make him out to be some sort of opotunist and all he wants is to make money.......

very unfair of you i think consider the free info he has given you

Agreed....

Phil's a top bloke.....

This isnt a free trade society.... He has a life off this board too and jobs like this take HIS time.

I'll do a lot for people on the forum where I can, but at some stage my time has to be worth something :cool:

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