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Originally Posted by D110V8D
And who would carry a fuel pump.:eek:
Me if I was that far from town...:D
But if you cannot work out whats wrong you sure can't fix it..:eek:
There is a lot of people doing these trips who can't change a tire so carrying spares is of no value..They trust someone who can fix it will come along..:mad:
Thats what you get when the untrained buy SUV's(hate that term) and think they can head any where they bloody well please..:mad:
I feel better now..:D:D:D
I hate SUV too, so I dont use it... :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by roverfj1200
And ours are NOT SUV's.....
They're Four wheel drive wagons....
I believe before any remote area permits are given that people should have to do a cert 1 mechanical course at TAFE....
fuel pumps, huh, thats just for starters, mate my last big trip I carried a whole fuel tank, and the supports for it...
you should have seen all the other gimmickry in the trailer... :)
(mind you I was moving at the time from wodonga to ipswich..)
The previous posts have been partly correct. It was the oil in the loom that stopped the vehicle and not a fuel pump as originally thought.
The owner had just bought the disco and it had lots of toys, but it was far from tested and I dont think he knew much about its history. He was not prepared for the trip, did not have a rave CD with him or any major spares. It had been bought about 2 month prior to the trip.
They were offered a ride back down the route to an aboriginal settlement but declined and chose to stay with the vehicle. They were well provisioned with water and food for up to 5-6 weeks. They had arranged a recovery from Halls Creek but the mechanic in a large 4wd Hino truck kept on staking tyres and had to turn back. Lucky in a way as the recovery was going to cost $15,000!! ouch!
A number of attempts had been made to tow them out prior to the patrols turning up, but hadnt been that sucessful. I am amazed they managed to tow them out!
When the disco first broke down, 3 days were spent trying to get it running again with many LR experts being called with no joy. The problem couldnt be diagnosed.
It does show that untested vehicles and new 4wders shouldnt go straight out onto the CSR. I hope they havent lost their interest in touring and seeing our wonderful country though...
Angus
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Originally Posted by barney
Referring to this, and your previous post in this thread about the service advice - I would like to know what dealer you reckon does all this. I had my bus serviced by dealers in four states over five years -during which time the problem with oil in the loom was known of and subject to a tech notice. Not one of the buggers raised it, addressed it, or told me about it - nor does it figure in any of their paperwork.
First time I take it to an 'independent' ( you know- the guys that you have so freely bagged) - he finds oil in the loom and tells me about it. I susbequently take the problem to two dealers and LR Australia and get told 'stiff ****' . (and this was when it was still covered by LR extended warranty).
I think you need to get you facts straight before you get on here and preach to us about how good the LR dealer service is. I, and many others on this site, have had similar experiences with this problem. There are not words to adequately express how crappily LR has treated Australian TD5 owners about rectifying this problem - especially when you consider that it was actually a 'free' fix in the UK.
Based on my experiences over the last seven years I am firmly of the opinion that the majority of 'official' LR service sites are money gouging useless B#$%tards with zero customer service ethic. Same with dealers - love you when you are buying, do not want to know you the minute that the deal is closed and there is a problem.
I spoke to the owner at the scene, and again since his vehicle was recovered, I dont think he was an idiot. How many spares should you carry? Several vehicles were in trouble at the time, cracked chassis, broken springs etc, possibly from the amount of gear they were carrying.Quote:
Originally Posted by ak
This is a known problem!
By the way, I have just contacted the people who transported the vehicle, it still appears to have been the comp. I will contact the owner when he returns and post a definite result.
By the way, I also enjoy my rangy and tdi disco, I'm not against landy's, but still feel this issue has been neglected by land rover.
OK then! Heres real.... :2up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus
Basic CPR is good to have.. Full stop!
Radio operators course is usually provided IF you buy a HF new, otherwise most radio shops have a "how to use a HF" night... Not a bad idea if you have one! :cool:
Offroad driving course.. Optional.. But some idea of basic recovery techniques, safety measures etc should be part of your trip preparation....
Clubs provide this facility..... :D
Being able to drive safely, recover safely is certainly a HUGE plus in the middle of freakin' nowhere :angel:
Now BACK to my previous post....
If doing tracks like 'Madigans', CSR, GBH etc....
You SHOULD have some damn idea how the mode of transport your riding in WORKS.... :BigThumb:
Cert 1 @ TAFE is a cheap course, that helps the mechanically inept to learn the basics of a vehicle.
How to check Oil, Water, Tyres, Shocks etc...
It gives an understanding of what to check on a vehicle.....
It also touches on the basics of how to get going again if its something small, and how to check through things to try to find the issue.....
People who do remote area travel without preparation, simple mechanical knowledge etc... Put themselves and others at risk... Simple!!!
Basic training, be it from a club, TAFE etc... helps prepare travellers for the unknown....
Bloody amazing........ :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus
I post an opinion that is based on SAFETY and I cop a mouthful.....
GET REAL....
barryj keeps very quiet in this thread (I was a TAFE teacher for 16 and a half years so I know how standards have declined, any mechanical course would be valuable though).
barryj now slinks off in the background :whistling:.
OK...
A good read for those thinking of heading remote offroad....
http://www.exploroz.com/OntheRoad/Su..._Survival.aspx
I can't grow a thicker skin... Used it all on my thick head ;)
But I have done...
Advanced First Aid
Advanced 4WD training, both club and Outside trainers
Multiple vehicle control courses
Several Mechanical Courses (including Aircraft)
HF radio courses
Map reading and Navigation courses
OH & S certificates
Rigging courses (useful in recoveries but overkill!)
Welding and Metal fabrication certificates
Electronics and Electrical certification
I post my thoughts based on a focus on SAFETY....
Many people have facets of safety they apply every day, some at work, some at home...
But many people fail to consider the ramifications of certain things.... Or consider the expense outstrips the issue...
Example: Ever stood on a chair to change a light bulb?
At work, it would be a breach of OH&S....
Yet we do it all the time.
MY COMMENTS/OPINIONS are posted to make people think, or as work puts it "Take 2" and consider the repercussions of what you do (or don't do)...
Its the same as....... Here comes another opinion......
When offroading, get your partner to drive, to learn the techniques etc for offroad driving...
The reason I say this is, should you both be travelling and the driver gets injured and cannot continue driving then at least the passenger has experience in the vehicle and knowledge to help them get you both to safety...
:cool: