Holden v's Ford

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Originally Posted by Tank

How many Chev engines have EVER won anything of world significance, how many Formula I races have they won, Ford Formula 1 race engines have won more F1 Championships than all other makes combined. How many Chevs have won Le Mans or any other Race of significance, What happened to the chevs when they took on Carroll Shelby's Cobras, they even built an all alloy 396 and 427 chev (canted valve heads) to race the Cobras and they still got smacked and sent home, Back in the 60's and 70's nascar racing was dominated by Ford and Chrysler, where was the chevies, nowhere, so they changed the rules because chev couldn't win a race, which dropped engine sizes and Ford and Chrysler engines had to have restrictor plates under the carbs so the precious chevs had a chance, The Ford Indy engine revolutionised motorsport worlwide, what's the chev ever done, worldwide, there is life outside of the USA, not that they would know, Regards Frank.

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Have you ever heard the name "Chapparal'?

The Europeans changed the rules of the International Sports Car Championship after they were totally rolled by Chapparal using Chev. engineers and technology.

Have a look at the history of Nascar and see what Chev. engines and cars did under the control of guys like Smoky Yunick. The 358, 396, 409, 427, and 454 in various guises, the porcupine head, the three valve head. The 454's in the Mclaren Can-am cars were totally dominant. Chapparal used all-aluminium engines in the mid 60's coupled to a secret semi-automatic transmission whose details are still not public, and with driver controlled aerodynamics.

Corvettes were and are dominant in SCCA production sports car racing classes. Shelby Cobras were a purpose built racing car, not a production sports car that can be bought and serviced at any Chev. dealer in the USA. Ford have never built a production car that could keep a Corvettes tail lights in sight on the Nullabor.


The Ford Indy engine was copied from Meyer and Drake. They even bought an Offy to copy from and ballsed it up. The "Ford" GP engine was from Costin & Duckworth, a small English specialist engineering and design firm hence the brand name "Cosworth".

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Bloody well needed to be. I spent more $$$ towing my 1997 XH ute to the Ford dealership than I had spent in total on maintenance on my CM Valiant ute in 13 tears. The Ford was an unreliable uneconomic pile of puss. A long litany of electronic failures and electrical problems, head gasket failure, brake disc wear, fuel consumption, holes worn in seat squabs simply from getting in and out, all made me look for a simple non-electronic work horse, a Land Rover County-Isuzu.

The keen sales staff at the Ford dealer would 'phone me from time to time suggesting it was time for a new one. I always replied that I have had 2 Falcons, the first and the last.

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well mate the whole idea of a new model is it's mean't to be better than the last:D

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Originally Posted by Tank

You wouldn't know a fact if it fell on you, tell the car enthusiast market out there that the FORD 9" diff is Crap and they will laugh you out of the country, Regards Frank.

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You obviously know nothing of anyone building performance 9"s, billet carriers are a must to hold them together, I didn't say they were crap, best you stick to my words;) they simply aren't the ultimate that everyone believes.....IN STOCK TRIM

**** me, I was a ford fan, and a Rangry man, but once i realised how pig headed it is to be so one eyed, I opened my eyes:mad:

:clap2: Well said Frank :) chevs are only good for a bit of fun on the street and there not real good at that either lol :twobeers:
Greg :)

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Have you ever heard the name "Chapparal'?

The Europeans changed the rules of the International Sports Car Championship after they were totally rolled by Chapparal using Chev. engineers and technology.

Have a look at the history of Nascar and see what Chev. engines and cars did under the control of guys like Smoky Yunick. The 358, 396, 409, 427, and 454 in various guises, the porcupine head, the three valve head. The 454's in the Mclaren Can-am cars were totally dominant. Chapparal used all-aluminium engines in the mid 60's coupled to a secret semi-automatic transmission whose details are still not public, and with driver controlled aerodynamics.

Corvettes were and are dominant in SCCA production sports car racing classes. Shelby Cobras were a purpose built racing car, not a production sports car that can be bought and serviced at any Chev. dealer in the USA. Ford have never built a production car that could keep a Corvettes tail lights in sight on the Nullabor.


The Ford Indy engine was copied from Meyer and Drake. They even bought an Offy to copy from and ballsed it up. The "Ford" GP engine was from Costin & Duckworth, a small English specialist engineering and design firm hence the brand name "Cosworth".

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Chapparals were trounced by Fords at Le Mans, all the rest is in the USA, where did you get that meyer and drake crap from, the indy Ford was developed from the 221/260/289 engine, by Ford, Carroll Shelby with the Cobras and Daytona coupes dominated Sports car classes WORLDWIDE. Get your facts right, cobras were available in street form for anyone that wanted one that's where S/C comes from Street/Competition, Name a Chevy that has ever won the most prestigous motorsport Championship in the world, F1, well, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Have you ever heard the name "Chapparal'?

The Europeans changed the rules of the International Sports Car Championship after they were totally rolled by Chapparal using Chev. engineers and technology.

Have a look at the history of Nascar and see what Chev. engines and cars did under the control of guys like Smoky Yunick. The 358, 396, 409, 427, and 454 in various guises, the porcupine head, the three valve head. The 454's in the Mclaren Can-am cars were totally dominant. Chapparal used all-aluminium engines in the mid 60's coupled to a secret semi-automatic transmission whose details are still not public, and with driver controlled aerodynamics.

Corvettes were and are dominant in SCCA production sports car racing classes. Shelby Cobras were a purpose built racing car, not a production sports car that can be bought and serviced at any Chev. dealer in the USA. Ford have never built a production car that could keep a Corvettes tail lights in sight on the Nullabor.


The Ford Indy engine was copied from Meyer and Drake. They even bought an Offy to copy from and ballsed it up. The "Ford" GP engine was from Costin & Duckworth, a small English specialist engineering and design firm hence the brand name "Cosworth".

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Wasnt the ford GT40 a short production car that competed in lemans and whooped the europeans:D

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Originally Posted by rovercare

You obviously know nothing of anyone building performance 9"s, billet carriers are a must to hold them together, I didn't say they were crap, best you stick to my words;) they simply aren't the ultimate that everyone believes.....IN STOCK TRIM

**** me, I was a ford fan, and a Rangry man, but once i realised how pig headed it is to be so one eyed, I opened my eyes:mad:

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You call a ford 9" diff P!** weak against all of the evidence to the contrary and you have the hide to call me "pig headed" and "one eyed", if you cant comment without abusing someone, then I suggest you don't comment, Regards Frank.

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Originally Posted by Tank

You call a ford 9" diff P!** weak against all of the evidence to the contrary and you have the hide to call me "pig headed" and "one eyed", if you cant comment without abusing someone, then I suggest you don't comment, Regards Frank.

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Sigh...... it was a general comment, you also stated that i wouldn't know a fact if it fell of me, maybe a reflective look before commenting on my words??

All the evidence?? All 9s" that withstand horspower and abuse have billet carriers, i.e. detroit lockers, the cast carriers are weak as ****

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Originally Posted by rovercare

Sigh...... it was a general comment, you also stated that i wouldn't know a fact if it fell of me, maybe a reflective look before commenting on my words??

All the evidence?? All 9s" that withstand horspower and abuse have billet carriers, i.e. detroit lockers, the cast carriers are weak as ****

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Matt hows the head :wallbash: :D

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Originally Posted by Outback 1

so you can say that because you don't own one or drive one on a regular basis so that gives you better info than someone who does:D:clap2::tease::imwithstupid::imwithstupid::t ease::clap2:

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So the same would apply to you that doesn't drive a late model holden on a regular basis ???;)