the voices are getting to me

**macey918** · 14th September 2007, 08:18 PM

i need some landrover supporters to try and talk me out of a very hard and somewhat painful decision....
in all likelyhood my disco engine is dead in the water and i'm looking at my options (see post in tech entitled 'i know it's an old question) without exception the guys i drive with are telling me to f the disco off and get a GQ (in reality they have been telling me to do this for years) and they have very strong arguments. I LOVE my disco and would love to keep it going but it doesn't do what i want in it's current state.....it's not powerful enough and it's driveline is not strong enough....my plan before the engine cracked the ****s was to replace the diff centers, axles etc with maxi's locked and change the ratios to 4.11's to run 33's on road and 35/6's off with a LRA body lift and all the other normal stuff relating to that....as we all know that takes a bit of cash in itself but i looked at it as a long term investment with the intention of doing that now and then when the time came and the old 200TDi was nearing the end of it's useful life dropping a more powerful engine in. now that the engine has most likely died before i have done the other work it throws my equations out a bit??? if i was to throw a new engine in it is going to cost me at least 10 grand???? i would imagine and after that the truck may well have more power but the rest would probably still prevent it performing to the level i'm after and in all likelyhood would end up braking stuff with a more powerful plant behind them. I could throw everything at it and upgrade the drive line as well but would not see much change from 17 or 18 thou in total and then i'm still minus a winch bar winch etc. whereas i could pick up a GQ for 5 or 6 grand (probably with a winch aleady fitted) and throw 5 or 8 grand at it and it will be as tuff as i need/want
please find a rational argument to talk me out of it as i LOVE my landrover

**Ken** · 14th September 2007, 08:26 PM

Your last line says it all I LOVE MY LAND ROVER

**Fusion** · 14th September 2007, 08:27 PM

Simple the GQ is NOT a LANDROVER ... There decision made and all is good

**rangieman** · 14th September 2007, 08:32 PM

Your landie will be a lot cheaper to repair than a nitsan

Just price some parts and accessorys and compare the difference

**Maggot4x4** · 14th September 2007, 08:33 PM

How much can you do yourself?

My Rangie owes me about 10k all up. It has 80 series diffs with 4.11's and twin lockers, 8000lb hi mount, 315x75x16 Procomp Xterrains or 35x10x15 Simex. Isuzu 4bd1.

Now I bought it with the 4bd1 already done, but the rest was either done by me or friends. The trick is to look around, and think before you spend.

I have had lifted and locked GQ's, 80's, 100's, fj40's with tyres up to 40". My rangie is by far the most capable of the lot.

There is just something about the 100" wheelbase, the suspension geometry, the balance, that you don't get with any other vehicle.

**macey918** · 14th September 2007, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by rangieman

Your landie will be a lot cheaper to repair than a nitsan

Just price some parts and accessorys and compare the difference

wow really, i'd assumed GQ parts were dime a dozen?
thanks though thats a begining to arguments against....it'll take a lot of parts to make up the 4 or 5 grand difference though

**macey918** · 14th September 2007, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Maggot4x4

How much can you do yourself?

My Rangie owes me about 10k all up. It has 80 series diffs with 4.11's and twin lockers, 8000lb hi mount, 315x75x16 Procomp Xterrains or 35x10x15 Simex. Isuzu 4bd1.

Now I bought it with the 4bd1 already done, but the rest was either done by me or friends. The trick is to look around, and think before you spend.

I have had lifted and locked GQ's, 80's, 100's, fj40's with tyres up to 40". My rangie is by far the most capable of the lot.

There is just something about the 100" wheelbase, the suspension geometry, the balance, that you don't get with any other vehicle.

unfortunately my mechanical expertise is very limited so a large ammount would be done by garages although i'm sure i could get help with some of it from mates. in honesty if i could get away with spending $15000 on it i would keep it... but that would have to include engine transplant and mods and i'm not sure i can get it across the line for that. It has given me food for thought though.... they are a very well balanced vehicle with great suspension geometry. also there is a time restraint on all of this as it's my daily driver and although i've got it covered at the moment i can't afford to have it off the road indefinately

**rangieman** · 14th September 2007, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by macey918

wow really, i'd assumed GQ parts were dime a dozen?
thanks though thats a begining to arguments against....it'll take a lot of parts to make up the 4 or 5 grand difference though

And thats why bits cost , cause all the crowds own them and want better bits

The demand is there so name your price

**DiscoTDI** · 14th September 2007, 09:04 PM

Dont go with a GQ, they are not worth it. Have had a few in the mines and they crack the front end. All in all you are better off with a stock disco than a modified GQ. Also they have a habit of dropping a leg out of bed at around 130k in the 4 cylinders

. I know of 5 late model ones (2-3 years old) that have done this out here

**LandyAndy** · 14th September 2007, 09:16 PM

Disco first
2nd GQ are good,go the 4.2,.Just a stronger than 3RD driveline.
3rd 80Ser,tough,parts everywhere,reliable.MUCH BETTER THAN LANDY OWNERS LET ON!!!GUTLESS DIESEL GOBBLER THOUGH!!!!
Andrew

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