What a Spud!!!!!!!!!!!

This particular user is the old president of the LROCV.

Remember, he was talking to friends on the LROCV website forum...he's had numerous Defenders and when I last was a member of that club, he seemed happy with his latest purchase (a 130 single cab, modified to be a camper).

That said, why rubbish a product if you haven't used it yet? I don't even do this with a product I find at the supermarket.

Notwithstanding, I can also see his perspective: if you were comparing the 3 "heavy duty" 4wds available on the market, why does the LR product seem so underpowered?

However, I still want one. If I had the money, I'd take my 2A down to a dealer and demand a trade-in!

-Alastair

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Originally Posted by spudboy

Well I agree that he is talking out of his @rse, but he has a valid point about the small motor for Australian conditions.

I have ordered a 110 (god knows when it will get here) with the 2.4 because that is the only choice I get. If there was an option for a V8 twin turbo, or even a V8 single turbo (or even a V6 turbo...) then I would have ordered one of them. Everyone wants more power.

Instead, people like us spend more $$ on chipping, big exhausts, bigger intercoolers etc, all to get more power from our 'small' motors.

Off road it is not an issue, but doing highway driving in a loaded 300TDi/TD5 (and I suspect in the new 2.4 too) you could use more poke.

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If you're having a winge about a small motor for Aus conditions then you're missing the point. The Defender is aimed fairly & squarely at the off-road / workhorse market. It is not billed as a motorway cruiser.

If you want something that's awesome off-road and a fast(ish) road car then you need to be looking at the something like the Discovery...

M

Now the thread has been locked....

SPUDS

Go on mark, start a new thread on How good it is....

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Originally Posted by camel_landy

If you're having a winge about a small motor for Aus conditions then you're missing the point. The Defender is aimed fairly & squarely at the off-road / workhorse market. It is not billed as a motorway cruiser.

If you want something that's awesome off-road and a fast(ish) road car then you need to be looking at the something like the Discovery...

M

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Mark - I think you are missing the point and as you have been here I am sure you really understand - we have to drive big distances and any car, no matter what it is designed for should be able to cover these big distances at a reasonable speed and reasonable comfort - now I am sure the new Defender will be able to do this but there is still some concern - why pick this engine when there are better engines in the line up - why not the TDV6 for example.

Garry

I think Mark is spot on.

You can cover big distances in a defender, OK not like a 100 series.
BUT
the 100 series is crap in the bush compared to the Defender.

We are all forgetting what a Defender is. Its a 4wd designed for its sole purpose to be the BEST 4wd built for 4wding, not touring. The Defender is just a run on of the Series.... and that was a Tool and not a sedan.
If you want to tour in a nice comphy 4wd that is still capable then you buy a Disco or Rangie.

Clarkie

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Originally Posted by camel_landy

If you're having a winge about a small motor for Aus conditions then you're missing the point. The Defender is aimed fairly & squarely at the off-road / workhorse market. It is not billed as a motorway cruiser.

If you want something that's awesome off-road and a fast(ish) road car then you need to be looking at the something like the Discovery...

M

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Well I wasn't really bitchin', because the new motor sounds like it is going to be fantastic. Just lamenting that the bigger engines are not even available as an option, that's all.

I've got the 3.0L diesel in my Rangie and it is such a pleasure to drive. Overtaking is no hassle even with a car full of gear and kids, and it still gives 10L/100Km so you don't lose economy to get the power. Be nice if you could get that in a 110......

spudboy are you one of the sons of the spud over on LROCV? lol! :D :wasntme:



(couldn't resist!!)

Nope - it's people like them that give spuds a bad name :D

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Originally Posted by sclarke

I think Mark is spot on.

You can cover big distances in a defender, OK not like a 100 series.
BUT
the 100 series is crap in the bush compared to the Defender.

We are all forgetting what a Defender is. Its a 4wd designed for its sole purpose to be the BEST 4wd built for 4wding, not touring. The Defender is just a run on of the Series.... and that was a Tool and not a sedan.
If you want to tour in a nice comphy 4wd that is still capable then you buy a Disco or Rangie.

Clarkie

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Hmmm - maybe that is the reason virtually no one buys new Defenders :(and if this keeps up will be extinct in this country.

You told him:D
My TD5 tows 1.5 tonne at 110km/h with ease:wasntme: