Im looking at your Avatar and your doing the same thing.Quote:
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Im looking at your Avatar and your doing the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus
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Originally Posted by dlatn
what a stupid comment. :mad:
some of us actually buy 4wd's to get out and enjoy the challenge of tracks like that whilst still being as considerate as possible to the environment.
comments like that are what causes these reports on the news by people who would never take their car off the bitumen and buy a 4wd as a fashion statement.
just because you don't enjoy doing so doesn't mean other's don't and it certainly doesn't mean those that do are all ******* that wreck the bush and so forth.
as for them being **** wits for taking pictures and having a giggle - almost every thread on here has a request from half a dozen or more people requesting pics (hypocrits springs to mind) and everyone must admit that when an inexperienced 4wd er (as i am) makes a few mistakes people have a giggle then offer advice and that's the way to learn.
my 2c worth.
jason
come on, i often see classic cars like that one 'hooning' through the bush;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus
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here here!Quote:
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Originally Posted by dlatn https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...016/08/768.jpg
Only ******* would take this track and not the one around the bit of scrub. City people perhaps?
what a stupid comment. :angry:
this is half the problem out there! its the idiots that go out to a place that has better than average 4x4 tracks and expect their stock whatever to go places they really cant! these tools are the ones that have bulldozed the extra tracks around the hard bits, which has made the place look a right mess!
the errosion thats now in the track in the vdo is really bad, BUT its not all caused by the 4x4ers! how much rain did whe have a while back? bloody lots, that caused a fair bit of damage, BUT it still dosent help that some tools went out their after/during the rain and cut the place up
slunnie, this bit is b4 the steps, and yes there is now 2 tracks around one up the hill and one up the creek.Quote:
If it's where I think it is, I'm pretty sure there isn't a track around it. Through that area actually isn't a difficult drive although there is a lot of lean
and is is quite difficult to drive now especially if you dont have a locker and like dragging your gutter on the side of a bank.
about a k in from the bridge there is now another track that has been bulldozed across a corner, totally pointless! all the marks left on that track are those of a bottomed out 4x4 being dragged by a winch.
also i was there for the first clean up, and all i can say is while there is bugger all rubbish in and around the track areas, the old stockpile area where the rubbish was to be picked up from and disposed of still isnt clean! and now there is a whole lot of builders rubble that im sure wasnt there b4. i know i wouldnt drive for any length of time to dump rubbish there and neither would most other folk.
is i think the people close to the area need a good looking at.
the finger can be pointed in alot of directions.
be constructive not destructive.
phil
Time out, group hug required :).
The problem that I have with the scene is that there is a track around the obstacle. Someone in the past decided that it was better to bash a path through the bush and not do any of the maintenance that we so often claim that we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by dlatn
We can't have it both ways - either we, as a class of people, do the maintenance and not cut new tracks around obstacles or we get labeled 4WD hoons.
The newly cut tracks are very clear evidence of bush bashing.
Just my opinion.
Diana
and its spot on!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies
cheers phil
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Originally Posted by discowhite
It is the extra track that we should be worrying about. When some of the clowns in the less then capable vehicles get to a part of a track that is too difficult for them they just go around and make new tracks instead of turning around. I am surprised some extreme greenie hasnt picked up on it from the video
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Originally Posted by Merv
If there's a chicken track, I'll take it. I'm not going to damage my car if I can avoid it. There have a been a number of occasions when I haven't proceeded any further as I wasn't willing to try the difficult section.
However, one might be in a convoy on a trip and there is no other way - then one would be tempted to created a bypass. The alternative might be to abort the trip for those unwilling to damage their cars.
RonQuote:
Originally Posted by p38arover
Have to agree with you about damaging the car, it's my daily driver and I can't be without it.
The issue for us should be, that if we come upon a section of track that is impassable for all the cars in the convoy, then we should do some road maintenance there and then. Planning a maintenance expedition sometime in the future may not be soon enough for the fire that comes next week. An hours work by a half dozen or more people can do a lot, particularly if we also make modifications that re-direct water away from the wheel ruts and off the track.
If we want to claim the high ground as environmentally aware and not 4WD hoons, these are things we must consider.
They may not always be possible! And if the cut track is already there we should possibly use it because it may have been created by Forrestry or RFS.
Diana