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Well, no one responded and that should tell you something (uh, I did, now there's irony).
Anyway...
Because a person chooses the level or quality of language they have around themselves, this is to be not an indication that they are at all weak or any lesser as a male, or that they are lacking in machismo. They do not need to "harden up" because their choice represents their maturity and character. Indeed I would say that someone who suggests such a thing, that of hardening up, ought to listen to what such a person who has made the choice and publicly declared that they do not want to hear obscenities on a public forum, might say and they may learn what it means to be adult.
Being adult means accepting responsibility and accountability for ones actions, and it means displaying qualities that have been won over years of life's learning and experience; things like respect. It means having discrimination about what one wants to have around themselves, which is *not* the same thing as being PC.
If a user of profanity and obscenities lacks respect and tells a person to "harden up" because they voice their objection to their use of profanity or obscene language in a situation where such use is clearly not accepted, then that is a further indication of the respect that is lacking in their character.
dlatn has shown us that he respects other users' wishes in this forum, and for that, thanks and good on ya. Yours is an example that some others could follow.
Now, don't get the wrong idea about me either. I use blue language when it is required - I've been a fisherman (had my first longliner when I was 15), a truckie and know many people who are associates or gang members. I have family members that are in gangs, I've been amongst those who have hardened up and those who have decided to be refined. I would say the harder battle is amongst the latter when it comes to abiding by life's choices.
It is easy to "harden up" when all you are asked to do is look and behave belligerently against those people who appear to be somewhat different from yourself. And it is easy if all you are asked to do is expectorate profanity and obscenities instead of attempting to offer a mature response.
So, in response to your "harden up" I would say "grow up" my friend.
IMHO, if you choose to swear when you're by yourself or when in the company of friends or colleagues who accept it, then that's your business and their business.
But, if you choose to swear in the company of those who don't like it, then you're being nothing other than inconsiderate.
I love this site(and donate).
But over the last couple of months it is becoming, an exercise in fuddy duddy-ery. It is moving from a tolerant site of easy going, free speaking, men and women, (and inbetweens), old and young, smart and not so, happy and grumpy, mostly just people all getting along, loosely centred around LR's,, all people acting as a good spread of general society,, complete with the occasional blow up(we are human)......... to becoming a overmoderated, well spelt, lesson in snobbery..
I don't like lots of stuff in this world, but I don't try and tell people how to live there lives,, I will argue with them and call in the umpire if need be, but only if they step outside of public square standards. (common swearing, poor spelling, public-ally accepted sexual topics,, all fine, even if I don't agree.
If I banned everyone who had different standards, I would limit myself to a world of "Mini Me's" and have very little stimulation or growth, LIKE AULRO good do easily the way it is heading.
"PUBLIC FORUM" I ARGUE THAT IF IT CAN APPEAR ON FREE TO AIR TV, THEN IT SHOULD BE OK ON HERE !.
OR you risk Nazi status.
I read this whole thread with an open mind on both sides. For me personally, I think those who make the rules (lets use this example of not swearing) should also look in the mirror and decide weather or not what they are 'enforcing' is actually offensive also.
I found this thread to be very dissapointing.. why? Let me try to explain. I can read a post from any of you guys/gals, and it may contain a substantial amount of swearing, and not get offended. I dont get offended because I choose to show tolerance in how others may choose to express their opinions. I may not like it at times, but its not my right to dictate to others (and in this case demean others) on their choice of words.
In another case, I have been spoken too in a very offensive manner without 1 single swear word being spoken. (and yes, I have done like wise).
I have also been to other sites where the swearing was getting out of hand, so I decided to leave the site, not impose my opinions on others. If this site begins to head down a path of zero tolerance, I wont compain (much), I just wont come back.
Regards,
unfortunately the censorship laws in Australia are not the same for tv radio and other media, the censorship laws pertaining to internet are tougher. they are much more similar but not quite the same as the laws covering games.
a visit to some of the freedom of speech sites in Australia will give to a better idea of what you can get away with under a G rating.
a visit to the censors site is a true eye opener when you start reading some of the statistics... it becomes obvious the the majority of censorship relates to lifestyle choices and views differing to that of the government of the day.
as for the over moderation on aulro.... it usually comes in spasms when the boundaries are being consistently pushed.
you sometimes have to push back further than the line so it can slowly creep back to it, if you get my drift...
finding the fine line of balance is an acquired art and whilst we try our best, we dont always get it right first time....