convoy discipline....

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

I always love the way that the last few convoy drives ive done with the military the medics mechanics and wreckers have always been up at the pointy end of the convoy....

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Too many Reccemechs been dissapearing and heading for the nearest watering hole?
Seriously Dave whats their rationale?
I know rationale and Officers don't always go hand in hand but thats Bizare!

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Originally Posted by vnx205

McRover
OK, I think I have just worked out what has happened here.

I wanted to suggest that there was really quite a lot of common ground in the posts so far.
I chose your post because it was a recent one that I wanted to agree with. I could have chosen a dozen others, but yours was the most recent one that suited my purpose.

After carefully rereading both your post and mine I can see why it looks as if I am putting words in your mouth.

What I intended as a general comment looks as if it is aimed at you specifically. I can quite understand why you wanted to clarify your position.

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No stress Allen, as I said no offence was taken as I didnt think any was intended.

There has just been a few times as I stated that I have had a problem with that sort of thing so I just thought I would clarify it myself.

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Originally Posted by Numpty's Missus

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I think maybe you are being a bit anal Blk...this is civvy life not the armed forces...and that's not a criticism, but an observation...my old man used to be the same, expected the general public to conform to armed forces thinking at times...that's fine if you are in the forces :D:D
but most of us are not :D

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I'm sure it did you no harm to have a Dad in the ADF :)

You sure don't look like it did, Pat:D

My kids hated the Army life and all the moving, now they think it was a bonus.
The poor buggers were brought up that way, even if the Mother In Law thought I was too harsh!

They tell me now they don't regret that life one bit. All are doing very well :D

Yes I was a WO1 and they had the RSM/WOD treatment!

Now you know why I like rules :p

Cheers

I think most of you have missed the point and to quote Numpty’s Missus, are being quite a bit Anal.

Like the first two trips, this one was primarily based on giving Landy owners, with limited or no off road experience, a safe, social based ( non competitive ) chance to take their respective vehicles off road.

The requirements of these three trips has been deliberately set to an absolute minimum so as not to intimidate anyone thinking of joining in on these trip.

To this end, in my opinion, all three trips have been a roaring success and particularly with reference to the large number that attended on Sunday, I think Inc, harry and loaded should be given a big round of applause for a difficult job, very well done.

So why not just leave it at that, a job well done and a great day out as a result of that well done job.

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Originally Posted by RonMcGr

Some good points there, Dave

Good thing we did not have the turn off headlights rule, half the time I forgot to turn them back on until Incisor mentioned it over the radio. :) Mind you I had the problem in the Army as well ;)

The RAAF convoy orders are what the Jaguar Club use, and there is always some goose in an E-Type who pass the leader, just because they can. I think that mob would iritate you :D

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nahh as they past a stab at the loud pedal and a bit of right hand down to put the bull bar into the left hand rear corner and they pirroet nicely off to the left hand side of the road where I can easily and safely overtake them

but on a serious note....

Another easy point for the headlights thing is that with most new cars the headlights wont come on unless the engine isrunning or at least has the ignition switched on..

seeing the headlights in the rear view mirror is a simple reassurance from the vehicle behind saying yep its cool Im still running.

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Originally Posted by Blknight.aus

not sure if this is a whinge, tech tip, or something else so here it is...

as part of the last trip (and some others IVe been on) everyone makes use of convoy discipline as used in the ADF.

the last trip showed pretty good use of it... but theres always some room for improvement. Ive read in a couple of threads about education trips for guys who dont have the experience in offroad driving and have often wondered if convoy driving is actually covered on these or not.


hope that doesnt get up too many peoples noses.

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Folks, take a breath and relax.
I think all blknight was doing was giving some useful pointers in a friendly way, and informing a few people that may not have known about convoy procedures.
;)

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Originally Posted by drivesafe

Like the first two trips, this one was primarily based on giving Landy owners, with limited or no off road experience, a safe, social based ( non competitive ) chance to take their respective vehicles off road.

The requirements of these three trips has been deliberately set to an absolute minimum so as not to intimidate anyone thinking of joining in on these trip.

To this end, in my opinion, all three trips have been a roaring success and particularly with reference to the large number that attended on Sunday, I think Inc, harry and loaded should be given a big round of applause for a difficult job, very well done.

So why not just leave it at that, a job well done and a great day out as a result of that well done job.

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Totally agree Drivesafe.

As a newby to 4WDing and LR this year, I have to admit I was a bit apprehensive about joining a club and going on these events (a la D'Aguilar ranges last Sunday). But I'm much more confident now after seeing "rules" applied and working.

ie a number of times on Sunday I lost the car in front in the dust and pulled up in case I ran into them. Once I could see I'd move on and find them at the next intersection.

I'm also was pretty anal (now there's a word that's been used a lot in this thread!) about waiting for the guy behind me at prop points and intersections because I want you guys to do the same for me!!

I do have one question on the convoy rules though. I may have missed this but do we ever discuss a highway cruising speed? I only ask because I like to belt along at the posted speed limit + 10% which is fine in a D3 but may not suit a 4 cylinder S1 (no offence anyone:))

Late edit - ...and I am happy to cruise along at whatever speed is deemed most suitable for all.

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Originally Posted by RonMcGr

I'm sure it did you no harm to have a Dad in the ADF :)

You sure don't look like it did, Pat:D

Cheers

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What makes you think her (our) old man was in the ADF :D:D

Martyn

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Originally Posted by WhiteD3

I only ask because I like to belt along at the posted speed limit + 10% which is fine in a D3 but may not suit a 4 cylinder S1 (no offence anyone:))

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OUCH!!:D
Thank god I had a V8 :lol2:

Mind you, the "Ford V6" is not too bad :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by WhiteD3

I do have one question on the convoy rules though. I may have missed this but do we ever discuss a highway cruising speed? I only ask because I like to belt along at the posted speed limit + 10% which is fine in a D3 but may not suit a 4 cylinder S1 (no offence anyone:))

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I've not contributed to this thread thus far but let me chime in here. In my experience with car clubs, it's the people down the back that always have to work hardest to keep up. Isn't too much of a problem on straight free running bitchy but when isn't it becomes a problem.

If there is an event that causes even a minor slowdown in the procession it seems to amplify. IE if the person up the front is doing 100 often the people down the back will have to do 110 or more to keep up at times.

So, if the guy up the front wants to do 110 I'm afraid sooner or later he's going to loose everyone. :o IMHO at these events you just have to get in the mindset of take you time and enjoy the scenery.