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Hi Beforethevision
If I recall that setup you have mentioned was developed on a Defender in WA quite a long time ago,they were trying to sell the system to Landrover for use by the British/Aussie armies.I still have a Landy mag with a article on it.
Unsure if the news article from yesterdays West Australian is available online,but the jurno definately described the system as 2 rams one back one front applying pressure to the stabiliser bars,same as the ACE does.Perhaps the jurno has it all wrong,but seeing he was reporting on the official launch in Alice Springs,Im sure Toyota would have explained the ins and outs of the system to the jurnos.
Andrew
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From Toyotas website
http://www.toyota.com.au/toyota/vehi...3_1912,00.html
Sounds like ACE to me!!!!
Andrew
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"The LandCruiser 200 interacts with the road—or whatever you happen to be driving across—like no other vehicle on Earth."
Looks like ACE to me as well Andrew! Apparently like no other vehicle on Earth:clap2:
Cheers Charlie
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Hey guys
I understand the scepticism, but saw the original version in action back in about '94-'95 - and was the single most impressive thing I've seen in 4 wheel driving. In real terms not really anything like ACE - unless they have had to seriously "dumb" it down for the consumer market.
From memory the test-bed Hilux had suspension arms located in an X pattern and provided flex that was unbelievable. Hope they kept it real!
Cheers
Mike
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Comon guys, a bit of credit where it's due ;).
The Kinetic system is nothing like Land Rover's clever but complex design. I think in its basic form (I know the company offers different levels of "suspension enhancement") its a reactive mechanical-hydraulic set up and doesn't need sets of pumps, motors, sensors, computers like the Landy stystem. Hopefully that means it will be cheaper, more reliable, easier to repair/service blah, blah, blah.
Bit of a shame Toyota where the only ones smart enough to use the technology, would have been good to see the set up on the new Defender - handle like a demon :twisted: and increase the wheel travel even more :eek:.
Having ranted on, I've never heard much that goes wrong with the Landy's ACE system. Has anyone on the forum ever had any problems :confused:.
- Will
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It's not the same as the system from Kinetic that gives the huge flex, that replaced the whole suspension with hydraulic rams and was very impressive.
This looke like a good set-up but is hardly new technology.
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Mitsubishi and Citroen both used the Kinetic system in their Rallye Raid cars, and I think Citroen might have used it in their WRC cars 'till the FIA outlawed.
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G'day Folks :)
Kind of looks like a modern version of the old Hydrolastic suspension as fitted to the 1100 & 1800's of the 60's & 70's by Leyland.
cheers
