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Originally Posted by procrastination inc

"If it ain't broken, don't fix it!"

AND I think the Libs are deliberately trying to loose this election because it is all about to fall down and they don't want to be there when it happens.

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I could almost agree with you, but, having worked in the pollie game, the one thing that all pollies want is to be in government, not in opposition. They want the 'power', most of these people have seriously large egos.

Take Malcolm Turnbull for example, he's got more than $100 million in his pocket (so he doesn't really need the $200k or so he get as a local member/minister, annually), was once in the Labor Party, but when that didn't work for him, he swapped colours, got a (then) safe Liberal seat (Wentworth) and is grittng his teeth, biding his time so he can, one day, be the Prime Minister...

Kevin07 has a missus who has about $175 million in her kick; yet the Prime Ministers 'wage' is about $330k pa.

One has to look deep into the psyche of those who seek the high public office; are they trying to do their bit for the country, or are they seeking some form of ego boosting self satisfaction?

GQ

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Originally Posted by Quiggers

I could almost agree with you, but, having worked in the pollie game, the one thing that all pollies want is to be in government, not in opposition. They want the 'power', most of these people have seriously large egos.

Take Malcolm Turnbull for example, he's got more than $100 million in his pocket (so he doesn't really need the $200k or so he get as a local member/minister, annually), was once in the Labor Party, but when that didn't work for him, he swapped colours, got a (then) safe Liberal seat (Wentworth) and is grittng his teeth, biding his time so he can, one day, be the Prime Minister...

Kevin07 has a missus who has about $175 million in her kick; yet the Prime Ministers 'wage' is about $330k pa.

One has to look deep into the psyche of those who seek the high public office; are they trying to do their bit for the country, or are they seeking some form of ego boosting self satisfaction?

GQ

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and there endeth the lesson ;)







Must say I'm very impressed how everyone is keeping this so civil......









so far..... :D

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Originally Posted by Quiggers

I could almost agree with you, but, having worked in the pollie game, the one thing that all pollies want is to be in government, not in opposition. They want the 'power', most of these people have seriously large egos.

Take Malcolm Turnbull for example, he's got more than $100 million in his pocket (so he doesn't really need the $200k or so he get as a local member/minister, annually), was once in the Labor Party, but when that didn't work for him, he swapped colours, got a (then) safe Liberal seat (Wentworth) and is grittng his teeth, biding his time so he can, one day, be the Prime Minister...

Kevin07 has a missus who has about $175 million in her kick; yet the Prime Ministers 'wage' is about $330k pa.

One has to look deep into the psyche of those who seek the high public office; are they trying to do their bit for the country, or are they seeking some form of ego boosting self satisfaction?

GQ

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In the case of Rudd, it does appear to be "Me, me, me, me..."

I also think Garrett was right about Rudd.

Costello does not have a personality for a Prime Minister, but he is not as week as Rudd.

Turnbull would be my bet and he'll upset many on the way there :)

I only hope this poll reflects a similar result as the federal one :D

If there is one, and only one benefit of the Coalition losing, it will be that some of their experienced and knowledgable folk may end up in State parties. Hopefully then, we can change State governments and actually do something about health, transport and education, which by the way, are all the responsibilities of the States (yet blamed on Canberra:eek:).
Can you imagine a Qld parliament with some of the present federal characters:twisted:, or the Vic parliament with Peter Costello in full voice :twisted:or Alexander Downer in SA:angel:. What about Tony Abbott, now that would be fun!:cool:

Ralph

Statistics re debt being high are misleading. For some time it has been more beneficial in Aust (from both a taxation and a return pov) to invest money rather than save. Thus, whilst debt is high in monetary terms, there's a sound reason for it.

IMHO if you have a beef with the present govt then go for a change.

But, voting for Rudd because Howard is a 'liar' is like voting for the pot because the kettle is black.

And, deciding who you'll vote for in any election based on "maybe it's time for a change" appears to me to be totally unsound reasoning.

I cant believe the result so far THE LIBS the little man howard the coward :o

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Originally Posted by ROVERNIT

I cant believe the result so far THE LIBS the little man howard the coward :o

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Very odd comment!

Oh....that's right.......he's the man of steel!!!!!!:p

Actually, I voted today, as I wont be local on Saturday. Surprised me the number of people who were pre poll voting, was almost as busy as polling day.

Well at the end of the day we've got a lot to be thankful for - we're allowed to vote, we've got an income that allows us to indulge in a hobby and places to exercise that interest. The vote is always a very personal decision - it's the individuals choice.

Best country on the planet too! I'm looking forward to Sunday morning....:D

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Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph

If there is one, and only one benefit of the Coalition losing, it will be that some of their experienced and knowledgable folk may end up in State parties. Hopefully then, we can change State governments and actually do something about health, transport and education, which by the way, are all the responsibilities of the States (yet blamed on Canberra:eek:).
Can you imagine a Qld parliament with some of the present federal characters:twisted:, or the Vic parliament with Peter Costello in full voice :twisted:or Alexander Downer in SA:angel:. What about Tony Abbott, now that would be fun!:cool:

Ralph

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a very nice and very honorable thought, ralph1malph...

...but federal pollies see the states and any mention of a 'tour of duty' there as a backwards step...

...some state pollies have made the move to federal, like john fahey, kevin rudd, carmen lawrence, laurie brereton and others....

but they see the game in one direction,

even the right honorable and very independent Ted Mack, (Nth Sydney), went thru local council, to NSW state govt and on to federal, but I'm unsure if any have ever gone the other way....

which brings us back to the 'ego' issue.....:eek:

i couldn't see rudd, swan, gillard, howard, turnbull, costello, abbott or hockey, having lost their federal seats, seeking a seat in their respective states....

nor would the state govts/oppositions actually want them...being that each state has two leaders (govt/opposition), an ex heavyweight from federal could undermine the 'leadership' of the incumbent... e.g. joe hockey would make a great opposition leader in NSW, but Barrie would have to move aside and Joe, even before that possibility, would have to wait another three and a half years (to the next state election) before that would happen....

most of the people we will vote in next saturday are extremely driven, motivated by success, individuals...

cheers,

GQ