Good bye Johny!!!!!!!!!!!

All I can say is I'm glad I'm not yet allowed to vote...cos either option doesn't look good. I also get that déjà vu feeling after seeing a similar situation back in the UK nearly 11 years ago.

Conservatives were in power for 11 years, IMO did a good job overall and ensured those that wanted to work could, and could be successful...but did sod all for health, education, transport, etc. as you'd expect. Rich got richer, hard workers were rewarded, lazy and poor got enough to survive. After 10 years of power they got arrogant, corrupt and worse than useless...so the electorate voted them out in favour of Labour to "teach them a lesson".

First 4-5 years, no real change....then, feet under the table, second election win, country stealth taxed to oblivion, public spend through the roof, immigration a joke, lazy rewarded, hard workers and high earners taxed to hell - but money wasted rather than re-invested to fix the problems. Oh, health education etc. had loads spent, but all on administrative management and private "think tanks" rather than on doctors, nurses and teachers...so worse than the previous government. The whole lot of them (Especially after their third win - and heaven knows who could have been dumb enough to vote them in again - that was when and why I left the UK!!) are utterly useless and worse than the conservatives that were voted out.

Now, much as I dislike Mr Howard for some of the things he's done (I'm a shooter, and the money wasting and ineffective way my fellow shooters were persecuted with no benefit to the public who financed it all those years ago was inexcusable just because he doesn't like guns), and much as I think fighting an election campaign saying you won't serve the term before handing over to an unelected colleague is hardly the smartest way to go about things, you are in the main getting the devil you know.

Anyone with views anywhere to the left of my far right ones will doubtless disagree with everything above, which is fine, that's politics...but, like I say, I'm glad I don't have to choose. There is no right answer, only less wrong ones. All IMHO, of course! :(

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Yeh! a vote for liberal is a vote for the Miners, Oil Companies and the BIG Money Men , Regards Frank.

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Thats right! Who do you think provides the jobs for the battlers? The big companies go under or offshore, then NO ONE has a job!

All I can say is neithe side will tackle the oil companies and with oil approaching US$100 a barrel I am grateful that our governments policies are keeping our dollar high , imagine the cost if our dollar sinks back to the 60c in the dollar region I would suggest that Kevin07 may have the honour of presiding over $2.00 litre for ulp???

Will this be a seperation between the Series drivers form the Rangie drivers


So where does that leave me?

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Originally Posted by jik22

All I can say is I'm glad I'm not yet allowed to vote...cos either option doesn't look good. I also get that déjà vu feeling after seeing a similar situation back in the UK nearly 11 years ago.

Conservatives were in power for 11 years, IMO did a good job overall and ensured those that wanted to work could, and could be successful...but did sod all for health, education, transport, etc. as you'd expect. Rich got richer, hard workers were rewarded, lazy and poor got enough to survive. After 10 years of power they got arrogant, corrupt and worse than useless...so the electorate voted them out in favour of Labour to "teach them a lesson".

First 4-5 years, no real change....then, feet under the table, second election win, country stealth taxed to oblivion, public spend through the roof, immigration a joke, lazy rewarded, hard workers and high earners taxed to hell - but money wasted rather than re-invested to fix the problems. Oh, health education etc. had loads spent, but all on administrative management and private "think tanks" rather than on doctors, nurses and teachers...so worse than the previous government. The whole lot of them (Especially after their third win - and heaven knows who could have been dumb enough to vote them in again - that was when and why I left the UK!!) are utterly useless and worse than the conservatives that were voted out.

Now, much as I dislike Mr Howard for some of the things he's done (I'm a shooter, and the money wasting and ineffective way my fellow shooters were persecuted with no benefit to the public who financed it all those years ago was inexcusable just because he doesn't like guns), and much as I think fighting an election campaign saying you won't serve the term before handing over to an unelected colleague is hardly the smartest way to go about things, you are in the main getting the devil you know.

Anyone with views anywhere to the left of my far right ones will doubtless disagree with everything above, which is fine, that's politics...but, like I say, I'm glad I don't have to choose. There is no right answer, only less wrong ones. All IMHO, of course! :(

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I am in the same boat as you and i have said the same thing to freinds here.
And as for the Unions they scare the crap out of me. Maggie got rid their power in the uk and by the looks of things the northern ******* who lead them in the Uk came over here to run Aussie ones . (big fat mouthy nothern prats )
Work choices are can't see the problem, but i don't know anyone on them, They seem the same as the contracts we have always had in the Uk to me .Labour go on about them because they have taken the power away from the Unions, and that had upset the unions. But the unions ruin companys. Rover is one of many in the UK that they were totally reposible for sending to the wall. And then they moan because the members are now unemployed and they blame everyone except them selves, A**eholes

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Bring back Fred Nile :D:D:D

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Oh NO!! :D

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Will this be a seperation between the Series drivers form the Rangie drivers


So where does that leave me?

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What no mention of Defender or Disco or freelander owners

Oh bye bye baldy and the smirking git:D

better the devil you know than the one (and his union mates) whom you don't know....

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But the unions ruin companys.

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Yep, cos they protect workers that no-one in their right mind would (Or should have to) employ....so you're stuck with a bunch of useless, lazy people amongst the good, hardworking ones, but getting paid the same and it cripples the company. Look at France and Germany for proof.....or the UK in the 70's before the conservatives sorted them in the 80's.

If ANYONE wants to see an example of two faced Union bull****, look at the UK Deputy Prime minister under Blair - would he be the one you were talking about with your Northern comment? Union man at heart living in tax payer funded heaven whilst doing nothing for anyone but seemingly unable to be fired no matter what his level of incompetence? Had I read Animal Farm at a later age, I'd have thought it was modelled on the UK politics of the late 1990's!

Rogue companies need controlling too, sure, but unions are far worse IMO. The trouble with Labo(u)r is they're funded by them, so you know who really calls the shots however sincere and good the spokesman (Rudd in this case) might seem.

Hi there

Well as a few know I have worked within the Mining Industry for the past 15 years plus - and unions scare the Sh-t out of us.

But gentleman & ladies all will be answered today and its not worth the effort to comment further.

The person whom started this thread he has made a bold committment - can he also look into his crystal ball and tell us whom is going to win next years footy or next weeks loto results?

All the best

Wayne