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  1. #21
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    I was just wondering LoveMyV8County, Do ya mates call you Love!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RobHay View Post
    I was just wondering LoveMyV8County, Do ya mates call you Love!
    Not answering in case I incriminate myself.

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    If I was in you position I'd consider a diesel disco & get it chipped. Good long range, plenty of torque for towing, no outback fuel woes *(as long as you use a good diesel additive) oodles of space for 2 & best of all you can do 700 kms non stop & arrive without a back ache. The only time you should experience back ache is when your haulin a monster aboard the boat. & the girls love driving them too. Oh i forgot to mention go for an auto. Strong, reliable & the girls love driving them. ( she's towing Ok , get my drift)

    Good luck hunting. Your budget will be at the upper range looking at the above scenario. haggle hard & get the chip upgrade straight away.

    cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmah View Post
    Hi fade,

    Did you pick that up privately or from a car yard. I'm still trying to decide though on a diesel or unleaded. I would really love to have the grunt of a V8 though. The only thing that worries me is the fuel costs.

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    Tim
    gruntlandrover V8 Jap V6 eat it for brekky in fuel consumption and power....have a look at the KW and torque figs for a 4.9 rover v8 ,but V8 do sound nice even on an empty NW ,out of fuel why do you think they are so cheap compared to diesel equivilent?

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    fuel is the cheapest thing you will ever put in a car.
    V8's run longer, cost less to rebuild,
    cost less to maintain(bought a lift pump lately?)

    but , some people just like driving tractors,,,
    "How long since you've visited The Good Oil?"

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    The pic for you would be a 97 on Disco tdi 300. Very economical, reasonable power for a motor / vehicle size combo and very nice to drive. I miss mine. These were the update of the Disco1.
    Having said that I love V8s and absolutely loved my 84RRC. It was on dedicated lpg, which was the downside as it limited travel. But was an absolute blast to drive. Economy is great. My Dad actually has it now and loves it and the economy which is better than his old single cab hilux. Only got rid of it as it was not practical for remote travel. One of the most comfortable vehicles I have been in.
    Currently I have a Defender and while thos of us that have them generally love them they are agricultural and a bit rough at times. 300 and 200 tdis are a bit underpowered in the Fenders, but OK. 4wd capability they are the best standard 4wd by far. Load room absolutely fantastic.\

    Downside for diesels is they are expensive to repair and heads do seem to be an issue in high mileage tdi's at times.
    V8's are expensive to run on petrol especially when you boot it. A lot of workshops overcharge for Rover V8s cause they think you are made of money. Generally V8 parts are cheap and if you find an honest mechanic repairs are cheap.
    If you do go the V8 path get one on dual fuel petrol/lpg. Also with a V8 be prepared for oil leaks, they all leak sooner or later and can be down right frustrating to cure all the leaks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyDawg View Post
    gruntlandrover V8 Jap V6 eat it for brekky in fuel consumption and power....have a look at the KW and torque figs for a 4.9 rover v8 ,but V8 do sound nice even on an empty NW ,out of fuel why do you think they are so cheap compared to diesel equivilent?
    Cheap they are to buy and VERY cheap to repair. Another motor can be bought for 2 grand , IF it wears out.
    Ever looked at the cost to replace the diesels

    A TD5 engine replacement is similar to the cost of a 8 year old Disco V8

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    I've got a 1988 range Rover 3.5 V8 on LPG and a 1997 300 Tdi Defender, also a 1976 2.25 Petrol Series III on LPG, but I think that's not what you're after. So let's compare the first two:

    1988 Range Rover (manual)
    Best Fuel Economy (across the Nullabor) 14 litres per 100 km on ULP.
    Worst Fuel Economy 33 litres per 100km around town on LPG
    Average Fuel Economy 25 litres per 100km around town on LPG.

    The motors done almost 440,000km, uses no oil, doesn't leak.
    A very very comfortable car to drive.

    300 Tdi (manual)
    Best Fuel Economy 10 litres per 100km (open road cruising)
    Worst Fuel Economy 12.7 litres per 100 km (towing high load)
    Average Fuel Economy 11 litres per 100km (around town)

    My choice for a long trip is the 300Tdi Defender. When you're running LPG you never want to run on ULP, so you're forever filling / topping up your LPG on country runs. Stop 3 times in a day to refuel, pay, clean the windscreen, wait for someone to go to the toilet etc and there's an hour gone from your days travel. My defender's got a 150 litre tank, so I fill once a month, or every other day on a road trip.

    Comfort's not a factor as you're considering the same car (Discovery) in either Petrol or Diesel. The Sitting position in all Land Rovers is much better than any Jap 4WD. Your legs drop down and you sit in a more upright position, which reduces lower back stress. We've driven 10-14 hour days for two weeks and not a sore back.

    Service intervals a longer on a diesel, but you'll find most good owners do an oil & filter every 5,000km anyway.

    Tuning on a V8 on LPG can cost you a bit and should probably be done once a year. If they muck it up, as has happened to me on several occassions, it costs you time and fuel while they redo it.

    If you're in the Kimberely, diesel will be available through out, but LPG and even ULP will be limited in more remote areas. Also Diesel (with a snorkel) will be better for crossing creeks and flash flooded crossings if you're travelling in the wet season. This will allow you to get to better more remote swimming holes.

    If you travel with the mindset that you don't have to overtake everyone on the road, and you can just cruise along, then the power between a V8 and a Diesel isn't such an issue, having said that, I still overtake more than I get overtaken in the Defender.

    A 300Tdi can't be chipped, but power gains can be made though a bigger intercooler, new injectors if yours are over 200,000 may also help.

    For me range is the biggest benefit, and I read somewhere once, that the Tdi disco was (at the time) the only car that could cross the Simpson desert on a single (standard) tank of fuel.



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