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  1. 14th December 2007, 07:37 PM #21
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    Quote Originally Posted by tombraider View Post
    Yes your right... LMAO

    We as a country have had it easy for decades.... Not as much as the USA but similar vein...

    We cant continue to do what we do..... Get used to the changes....

    If you dont like it here, feel free to browse other nations and their pricing policies for major services
    A bit harsh mate!
    Just because other countries aren't like us, does not mean we have to change to be like them!
    I challenge that it is not us that are paying to little, but they who are paying to much!
    Regards shifting the peak load, this merely buys time, it does not solve the problem (what is it again?). Remember peak hour on the roads? It is now peak 3 hours in melb. What happens when when it is peak 6 or 8 hours?
    More electricity must be generated. I do not wish to start anyone off as to how it is to be generated, but it must!
    The risk of smart meters (as identified by studies in other countries) is that when users tighten up (good), peak load yield shifts (fair) and profits drop (bad for shareholders). Slowly but surely, off peak becomes peak in usage and rate and current peak becomes premium in usage and rate and we the punter are left with nowhere to go.

    Regards browsing other nations for prices, look what you get for the pleasure of user pays. In Singapore, the hotel I stayed at had coin slots for water in the shower and laundry. In the US, many elderly don't have electricity or running water as they can't afford it. In the EU adequate heating is the domain of the affluent (a generalisation)

    Whilst we must do something, there is a limit to peak load shifting and raising tariffs to reduce use.
    My advice, invest in shares of utility companies as the dividends will at least contribute to your next bill!

    I may be a tad pessimistic but as a former Howard Battler, and now a Rudd Working Family, I fear smart metering.


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  2. 14th December 2007, 09:29 PM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph1Malph View Post
    My advice, invest in shares of utility companies as the dividends will at least contribute to your next bill!

    I may be a tad pessimistic but as a former Howard Battler, and now a Rudd Working Family, I fear smart metering.
    If one is in NSW, fear it well - the NSW Labor Govt had voted to sell off the electricity industry to the private sector.

    As we all know, when a govt. asset is privatised, prices fall and service improves, e.g., CommBank, GIO, Telstra, Australian airports, et al.
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  3. 14th December 2007, 11:01 PM #23
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    I just took my savage dog off the chain & used the chain to lock the meter box!!!!
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    Our meter has been a smart one for some years. It wont be long before they will be able to be read via the power lines.
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    First I have heard of smart meters but as far as I am concerned its just a way to make us pay more because the governments will not pay for infrustructure for our ever growing population. The stupid Vic government wants another 1 million people in Melbourne by 2030. There is allready too many people and the place is bursting at the seams.
    Seems to me that a few well placed nuclear power stations could fix all the power and pollution problems but hang on, that would cost them money and and they could not rip off the consumers as much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    If one is in NSW, fear it well - the NSW Labor Govt had voted to sell off the electricity industry to the private sector.

    As we all know, when a govt. asset is privatised, prices fall and service improves, e.g., CommBank, GIO, Telstra, Australian airports, et al.
    I think that you might find that the reverse happened with the privatisation of electricity generation in VIC.
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  7. 15th December 2007, 08:20 AM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Our meter has been a smart one for some years. It wont be long before they will be able to be read via the power lines.
    That is true as you can get your internet via power lines if they so wanted.
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