Now this is very real

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Originally Posted by Ken

It just goes to show that no matter how much four wheel driving you do
(Four Wheel Driving is Dangerous) that Paj was idling
The driver and passenger were very lucky to get out of that one unscathed it must have been very scary
Ive been close to rolling out at Harvey and I can tell you it scared the bejeezas out of me 2.3 tonne on a wicked lean at the top of a hill is not fun especially when youve got to go forward and trust yourself and the car to make it down it one peice
Its all about picking the right line and that Pajero was no where near where it should have been :eek:

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Hey thats the reason I go 4wding, to get that feeling. In fact, to me that feeling is 4wding. I love it. My favourite bit is when the car teaters on opposing wheels. Perhaps it's just me but that feeling and the sense of accomplishment when assisting a vehicle has just been heavily recovered. These are the reasons I go. Also the reason I got a cheap RRC instead of taking the D2. I know eventually the car will go on it's side or roof, but thats why it's cheap and a ROPS will be installed.

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Originally Posted by Slunnie

I'd guess it was an auto, especially as he hit the brakes while rolling and the engine still didn't stall. Just seems funny that he didnt stop when he crossed it up on the angle. No doubt a lot of things were going through his mind at the time.

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The wrong thing happened very quickly and the rest was in slow motion.

It's amazing what happens when you're not concentrating and haven't imagined the worst outcome. Happens to me late in the day after a few hours of hard driving. What seems like a straight forward procedure can go very wrong..you can't take anything for granted even a seemingly easy reverse. Travelling in company should give us the sanity checks we need. Pity but at least none was hurt and the beer was cold.

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Originally Posted by dobbo

Hey thats the reason I go 4wding, to get that feeling. In fact, to me that feeling is 4wding. I love it. My favourite bit is when the car teaters on opposing wheels. Perhaps it's just me but that feeling and the sense of accomplishment when assisting a vehicle has just been heavily recovered. These are the reasons I go. Also the reason I got a cheap RRC instead of taking the D2. I know eventually the car will go on it's side or roof, but thats why it's cheap and a ROPS will be installed.

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I to love the thrill of the hill its a rush no doubt
My point is that when you do go you still need to be carefull otherwise these things will happen
Ill put the D2 wherever it will let me scratches or not
Although in the back of my mind is everything Ive ever learned about choosing the right lines and being in the right gear
It only takes a lazy moment to get into wicked trouble (OR WORSE)

Scary stuff...

As said above, i bet his foot was on the clutch. It looks like he was going very fast. I know its easy to comment on something like that sitting at the keyboard and not in the car, but i take all hills, ESPECIALLY steep ones, ESPECIALLY slippery ones, ESPECIALLY in reverse VERY slowly. If that footage was of me in Bulldog you could walk past me (everyone here no doubt knows how low "low 1st" is...)

It should never be taken for granted that you will make it up/down a hill, especially when recovering another vehicle (cos your usually assuming that your the recovery so your ok - i've seen recovery 4x4s stuck right next to the receoveree).

One day i drove down a steep slippery hill and got to an even steeper section on a corner. I stopped and analysed the situation for a long time. We decided it was too dangerous to send another 4x4 down to help. As it was getting dark I wasn't confident in driving the rest as a slide/rollover was likely. I left the Rangie there on the track chained to a tree, and went home in a mates car (over an hours drive). Went back the next morning and drove down on a drier track. I looked stupid and weak but i don't regret my decision. If i had been solo, i would have camped the night.

However, again, you have to make quick decisions while your moving, and i've make many wrong ones.

Good to hear they're ok.

OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Good to see they are all O.K.

I'll say this in basic ignorance......but wasn't he traveling a touch too quick?

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Originally Posted by WhiteD3

I'll say this in basic ignorance......but wasn't he traveling a touch too quick?

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Not only that, he had no idea what was behind him.
"IF" he had a camera at the rear.......... :)

Reverse somersault with a full twist in the tuck position....

Swmbo says....

"how the hell do you roll on something that simple"

im betting on it being all a case of a comedy of errors, if one thing had been eliminated OR several had had minor mitigations it probabley would not have happened

1. no guide(or an inexperienced guide)/mot following the guides insturcions, he was guessing as he went
2. riding the clutch back or it was an auto (didnt hear the engine get cut back by the govenor) and he was relying too much on brakes which is why the front wheels skipped out
3. road tyres at road pressures
4. crappy articulation and suspension setup.
5. poor loading
6. been drinking.

Coming out of Woods Point a couple of months ago after some bad weather there were alot of trees down, our group came up behind another larger group stopped at a large gum across the track. The larger group, 7 or 8 vehicles, about 16 blokes, had started on the tree already. Problem was that it was about 8;30 in the morning and these blokes were already on the Bundy and cokes.
Gum tree across the track was laying on close to a 45 deg slope and probably a meter in diameter, very unstable.
The bundy and coke specialists had a wrangler jeep hooked up to the tree via a snatch block anchored about 2 meters up another gum (this gum was about 200mm diameter and ground was very wet).
The cable was under load, with 14 blokes gathered around nice and close, drinking and each shouting opinions on what to do with another 2 blokes on chainsaws.

Our group kept a respectfull distance and watched, waiting for something to go horribly wrong, which thankfully it did'nt as i recon we could have been faced with either, the downed tree sliding further down the slope (with wrangler attached), the snatch block tree being pulled over during the winching operation or the group running out of Bundy's and coke:eek:
Don't know which would have been worse........