Thread: Crazy !!!!

A GPS is just another piece of techno junk to add to all the other techno junk that you dont really need in a car to distract you from the real purpose of sitting behind the wheel of a car (Driving the damn thing in a safe and responsible manner)
Cmon people we have driven for years without them why suddenly do we need them to tell us how to get somewhere I for one can get lost just as well before these contraptions where available

I generally mount my GPS down low near the cubby box in the defender, and pull over if I need to consult it, generally its just a glance to confirm still on the right track.

In the work low-lux I have it mounted centre screen on the dash, doesn't obstruct the view, but it would if mounted in the bottom right of the screen. At the moment something like an auto routing GPS is legal, I'm not so sure about a plain GPS

Originally Posted by Aust Road Rules

299 Television receivers and visual display units in motor
vehicles
(1) A driver must not drive a motor vehicle that has a television
receiver or visual display unit in or on the vehicle operating
while the vehicle is moving, or is stationary but not parked, if
any part of the image on the screen:
(a) is visible to the driver from the normal driving position; or
(b) is likely to distract another driver.
Offence provision.
Note Motor vehicle and park are defined in the dictionary, and vehicle is
defined in rule 15.
(2) This rule does not apply to the driver if:
(a) the driver is driving a bus and the visual display unit is, or
displays, a destination sign or other bus sign; or
(b) the visual display unit is, or is part of, a driver’s aid; or
(c) the driver or vehicle is exempt from this rule under
another law of this jurisdiction.
Examples of driver’s aids
1 Closed-circuit television security cameras.
2 Dispatch systems.
3 Navigational or intelligent highway and vehicle system equipment.
4 Rearview screens.
5 Ticket-issuing machines.
6 Vehicle monitoring devices.
Note Bus is defined in the dictionary.

May just be the way I'm reading it, so open to change my mind.


Martyn

Mine is in a PDA mount in the bottom right of the dash/window intersection near the pillar - well out of the way but where one doesn't have to drop one's sight.

I don't look at it much, I listen to the instructions - then usually ignore them as they are often wrong. I've turned off the "You are exceeding the speed limit" announcements - my wife used to hear them and nag me as well.

Re things in the middle of the screen, there is an old couple near me that have two disabled stickers on their screen. Both stickers are side by side in the middle of the screen!

Originally Posted by ivery819

From the news today.

If you try to steal someone's grog and hit them over the head with a cricket bat during the process and kill them, it is not murder it's grievous bodily harm .

If you are walking home from the pub and you are over .05 bac. you can be charged with drink driving if you walk near a parked car. Doesn't matter whose car it is or whether or not you have the keys. The police advise ......stay away from parked cars !

The authorities are considering banning vehicle mounted GPS systems as a safety measure. (you must be safer when you are lost ! )

Has Australia gone completely mad?

guy killed with the cricket bat is sad but indicitive of our current society and lack of accountability and repercussions for these actions. The police need to be held accountable as they were informed of what this group was doing and acts of violence from this group over 30 minutes before the murder occured. I respect the police and the job they do but that sort of response is just not acceptable anywhere. They could not have had that many priority jobs and if they did not roster on all Police over this period it is just poor management. There is no excuse that will suffice from the WA police for this inaction. I have seen this heaps of times, when they are to scared to attend violent situations and delay response times.

As for the being booked for being over 0.05 when walking near a car, that is a big croc. You can not be booked with dui or dd unless you are siting in a car with keys on you or in the ignition. You can not be booked if the keys are in the glovebox or console etc. So for those of you who get drunk and want to sleep in the car remember that, and that came straight from police officers. However you could be booked for being intoxicated in public or being drunk and disorderley.

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Quote "As for the being booked for being over 0.05 when walking near a car, that is a big croc. You can not be booked with dui or dd unless you are siting in a car with keys on you or in the ignition. You can not be booked if the keys are in the glovebox or console etc. So for those of you who get drunk and want to sleep in the car remember that, and that came straight from police officers. However you could be booked for being intoxicated in public or being drunk and disorderley."
The story featured a very senior Qld. Police officer and he was pleased at a recent court ruling that convicted a man for DUI with associated licence demerit points. He repeated that you did not have to do anything other than be near a parked car and you could be tested if you were ! His advice (and I repeat ! ) If you are on public land and you are over .05 stay away from parked cars. His words NOT mine. Furthermore there have been many reported convictions in NSW when people have been sleeping it off in their vehicles and have not driven anywhere, regardless of where the keys are.

G'day Folks

It used to be in Qld, that if you didn't have the keys in your possession you were OK, but it changed in recent years, and anybody over the age of 10, if, in a parked vehicle is considered in-charge of said vehicle, so if you are sleeping it off in the back seat or the front and the keys are under the tyre, you are still in charge of the vehicle and will be booked accordingly.

cheers

Originally Posted by ivery819

Quote "As for the being booked for being over 0.05 when walking near a car, that is a big croc. You can not be booked with dui or dd unless you are siting in a car with keys on you or in the ignition. You can not be booked if the keys are in the glovebox or console etc. So for those of you who get drunk and want to sleep in the car remember that, and that came straight from police officers. However you could be booked for being intoxicated in public or being drunk and disorderley."
The story featured a very senior Qld. Police officer and he was pleased at a recent court ruling that convicted a man for DUI with associated licence demerit points. He repeated that you did not have to do anything other than be near a parked car and you could be tested if you were ! His advice (and I repeat ! ) If you are on public land and you are over .05 stay away from parked cars. His words NOT mine. Furthermore there have been many reported convictions in NSW when people have been sleeping it off in their vehicles and have not driven anywhere, regardless of where the keys are.

I would like to see the court doccuments for that one as it is a serious misinterpretation of the law. The prosecutor must be able to prove you intended driving. There have been a number of publicised cases over here that have been thrown out of court. The only way you could be convicted is to admit guilt. You can not be prosecuted for DD or DUI just for being near a parked car. Read your states traffic act.
The jails would be full as would the courts.

CraigE
I believe the relevant words in both the NSW and Qld Acts are "In control of the vehicle " and "in effective control of the vehicle". The exact meaning of these words has been decided by the overzealous courts and the precedents have been written (and lately their meaning has been widened ).
Intent to drive or indeed capability of driving (e.g. you don't have ready access to the keys ) whilst a good point, in logic, is overridden by the the legal precedent. It would appear that the only way, in those two states, to avoid a possible conviction is to remain on private property. If you wish to sleep it off in your car then firstly obtain the landowner's permission and secondly park your car on that private property before you start to imbibe !
My point was and is that this law is an ass !