Thread: Qld Govt Making Hay.....

Originally Posted by Aaron

Speed limits aren't a secret. Cars are equipped with everything to help keep you within the limit.

I think there is nothing sweeter than getting money from those that choose to go above the limit.

Spoken like a true series driver !



(Well, not ALL hey Rocker! )

Originally Posted by solmanic

No they're not. I have said it before and I'll say it again - all vehicles can & should be fitted with speed-limiters. The new Defender is.

That's seditious talk !

G'day Vlad

What's with the "Rocker" bit you into the turps

it used to be "ROCKET" and yes, I am an old rocker!



Oh! well, it is New Year's morning, even for the "Luxo-Barge" owner

Tis bout time we had a get together at Vlad's I think


Bung-Tiddley

Speed limits are arbitrary and set by politicians, bureaucrats, & police, some of whom are influenced by the road safety nazis (RACQ, MADD, CARS etc.) and nimby groups. A non-arbitrary safe speed limit in the prevailing conditions should be the goal.

The current speed limits have been basically unchanged since 1960 despite the vast improvements in roads and vehicles since then. It is about time for a review, particularly with regard to highway speed limits. It is ridiculous to think that the flat straight roads of western Qld. still have the same speed limits as when they were dirt tracks, or the 6 & 8 lanes of the Pacific Motorway having the same speed limit as when it was two lanes of narrow tar and gravel in the fifties.

Statistically the road toll has gone down dramatically since its peak in the early sixties. I am not talking gross numbers here, but taking into account number of licensed drivers, number of vehicles on register, annual distances driven, population increase. My opinion is that this decrease was brought about by improvements in vehicle safety such as tyres, brakes, collapsible steering columns, vastly improved roads, compulsory wearing of seat belts, random breath testing which has reduced high level drink driving to a very low number of offenders. Vastly improved emergency medicine has helped with survival of injured motorists and passengers too.

Good Folk of Aulro,
Lets not forget, the folk of QLD, chose, through their election voting trends for this action by their govt and law enforcement officers.
We must respect that. Only they, through a change of govt can change that position.

I agree with all comments, but when I get caught speeding I accept the fine as I did indeed choose it.

Happy new year to all.
Ralph

The Courier Mail today has a report on the statewide rollout of fixed speed cameras. The article has a chart showing the state road-toll since 1954 as supporting evidence - only it makes it quite clear that there is no correlation between the introduction of speed cameras and the road toll!

The Chart shows a steady increase from 1954 to about 1973, then a plateau, then a steady decline since 1982 - despite a huge ongoing increase in population. Speed cameras were introduced in 1998-99 and since then the road toll has been slowly increasing again.

As I have mentioned in other threads, there is no reason for cars on Australian roads to be able to go faster than 120-130km/h. If governments are going to continue to do things unpopular amongst motorists, like installing speed cameras everywhere, then why don't they just do something unpopular which may actually have an effect, like legislating for all new cars to be speed limited to 120 or 130km/h?

Originally Posted by solmanic

The Courier Mail today has a report on the statewide rollout of fixed speed cameras. The article has a chart showing the state road-toll since 1954 as supporting evidence - only it makes it quite clear that there is no correlation between the introduction of speed cameras and the road toll!

The Chart shows a steady increase from 1954 to about 1973, then a plateau, then a steady decline since 1982 - despite a huge ongoing increase in population. Speed cameras were introduced in 1998-99 and since then the road toll has been slowly increasing again.

As I have mentioned in other threads, there is no reason for cars on Australian roads to be able to go faster than 120-130km/h. If governments are going to continue to do things unpopular amongst motorists, like installing speed cameras everywhere, then why don't they just do something unpopular which may actually have an effect, like legislating for all new cars to be speed limited to 120 or 130km/h?

I'm sorry to say mate, it wouldn't make any difference to the road toll. People who wanted to speed would just flash the ecu to remove the limit. In europe all the hot cars are limited to 250. Its a standard thing for customers to bypass this.

The only people you'd slow down are the honest people, and they aren't really your problem anyway. At any rate slowing people down doesn't really help beyond a certain point. People are better behaved (speed wise) than ever but as you've pointed out...it makes no difference. Poor roads, fatigue, alcohol/drugs, and inexperience are the real problems. And just sometimes s*%t happens and there is a big prang

However until you can make a business case for fixing the real problems we're stuck with doing nothing.

True - but you can't say it wouldn't be an improvement. And my point (made in the other thread) is that once you were caught speeding in a car that was meant to be fitted with a limiter, then you lose it - simple! Zero tolerance. And anybody with three speeding offences against them would be required to fit a limiter to an older car at their expense.

Now I know this doesn't do anything about people doing 100 in a 60 zone, but there are that many accidents at ridiculous speeds in excess of 120km/h that I still think it would be worthwhile. As I have said in my letter to the Courier Mail (over their stupid article), governments need to be seen to be preventing speeding, not just cashing-in on it.