nice :) exactly what I'll be shopping for someday soon... BUT at that kind of $$ surely you could have had it made locally :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams
crikey thats a lot of dough...
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nice :) exactly what I'll be shopping for someday soon... BUT at that kind of $$ surely you could have had it made locally :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams
crikey thats a lot of dough...
I was living and working overseas at the time plus I didn't realise exactly how much extra expense would be involved in getting it approved and fitted in Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by EchiDna
Also the mob I bought it from make rollcages for LR's for a living - I figured they would be better at making them then someone in Oz who'd never laid eyes on one before (in that they'd know the ins-and-outs of best fitment etc.)
SWB hard top (full roof).Quote:
Originally Posted by stirlsilver
I did not that here now we need approval for an improvement .Quote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams
I used to have an FJ40 and back then in the very early 80's in NSW every second FJ40 & FL45 used to have a roll bar at the front (around the windscreen) and another at the back. I used to support the roof rack on it. :(
Here in Bundy every electrician and plumber fit a huge pipe on the bullbar to hold the pvc pipes, conducts ladders :eek:
I guess that would be many ways to "skin the cat" regarding rules.
goes against the principle of your signature line huh? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Grizzly_Adams
I bet it stung once you found out the real cost! Any tips on what the changes required were? be most appreciated if you could...
I assume either Protection and Performance or Safety Devices made it? I agree, better to get people that have been there, done that...
Somewhat against the principal, yes :p .. and yes it stung once the real cost was finally realised, but I feel a lot safer in her now anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by EchiDna
It was Protection and Performance who made the cage, so well done on that front :) Nice people and they make some ripper cages.. if only they were legal in Australia :angel:
The changes I had done was the floor mounting on the B-pillar needed to be extended and the mounting of the C-pillar needed to go all the way to the guards instead of just the bulkhead. Relatively minor changes and if I'd done things properly I could have probably saved a couple of grand in fitting in Australia.
Don't take that as an indication though because each engineer is different and they all like to put their own little rubber stamp on it to show they do something... took me long enough to find an engineer who'd touch someone else's work, let alone someone else's work from out of Australia.
General rule in Australia seems to be that blokes will only engineer their own work - so there are plenty of engineers out there but they are making their own roll cages and won't certify anyone else's.
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I've found the ALRC site very handy for designing my own bar.
Unfortunately, I haven't built it yet.
So I don't suppose it will be much help to me until I do! :D
FWIW, a couple we know were killed on the highway up here last week when they rolled their car, a Navara I think it was. It sounds like they were really moving along when they went off to the shoulder, over-corrected, and then rolled several times. The driver was very inexperienced in driving up here and didn't realise how important it is to keep to a decent speed. (Like too many tourists don't realise it and crash, too.) I usually do 100kmh because you never know what will happen: cattle, tyres, you name it.
A well-built rollbar will help, but a safe speed and good driving will help just as much, I reckon.
I should add that any rollbar should be built with the proper tubing. Check with shops that build anything for speedways and racing and such. It should really be mounted to the chassis or specially built outriggers.
Unlike the one that came with my Landie and was built of old pipe, badly welded, and part of it was bolted to the body and the other part was held on with one Grade 2 bolt on each side!
mmm depebds what cage you go for though. These are safty devices one and they don't look alot differant to the one with out roll cages
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...008/01/417.jpg
My brothers did ok when he decided to land the truck on it from 30 foot
YouTube - 90 rolls
Some of the members believe that my original post have sensationalist heading and looks like they are wrong.
The original images were from accidents in Africa where the speed factor can be one of the reasons but the other reason which is common in Central America is the condition of the roads and tracks, specially for the last reason is that experienced drivers which have done more than one expedition do not think twice in fitting a roll cage.
Perhaps here in Oz is not so important in trips to the outback, but for the traveler on the mountain tracks for me is a good idea.
I did not have the intention to criticize the Land Rover, a vehicle for which I have a lot of admiration, I only like to rise the safety aspects of 4WD in the Oz tracks and remote areas.
I think you've done the right thing in trying to raise awareness of the issue. 110/90 owners in particular need to be aware of the risks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chucaro
Another source of rollbars are the companies who make ROPS protection for mine site vehicles. Generally speaking, all vehicles, including light 4WD's, which work on a mine site in Australia are required to have internal or external ROPS. Some of the bars I've seen are very well made and the internal ones dont look out of place, even in new vehicles.