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    2 billion just the begining---

    I dont normally post these here--
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    Filed under: Etc., Ford, Jaguar, Land Rover, UK
    Not that anyone will be surprised, but Tata (nor any winning bidder, if not Tata) can't simply send Ford a money order for $2 billion and have Jaguar and Land Rover delivered to its door. Jaguar and Land Rover are so tied up with Ford that "the buyer of the brands would ... need Ford's research facilities to upgrade the products." And Ford won't give that access away for free. Tata will also be assuming pension liabilities, and though there hasn't been a number put to it, we all know how expensive that can get.
    The result is that Tata and Ford are not discussing one deal, but 15-20 deals. All Ford would say is that they "are in substantive and detailed discussions with a view to securing an agreement." The deals would ostensibly secure continuation of parts like engines and technology, support for those parts, and the undoubtedly intense and lengthy training that Tata would need to insure the smoothest transition possible. All of which shows that this sale has not only gotten much more expensive, but much more complex, and for a much longer time to come.

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    I'm not surprised

    The local Falcon IRS is a S Type Jaguar copy.

    Ford and Jaguar have been swapping parts and ideas for a few years now.
    I'm told at one time, the XJ production line ran out of Jaguar badged electrical components, so they were given Ford ones to keep going .

    The whole Ford setup is very complicated with all the part sharing and composite motor ownership that goes on.
    I was told that the new Falcon V8 will be the (not quite released) Jaguar 5 litre!

    Some how, I don't think the Indians know who much of a mess this really is.

    If you look at this new LR2, it shares a platform with Ford and Volvo, and so it goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMcGr View Post
    I'm not surprised

    The local Falcon IRS is a S Type Jaguar copy.

    Ford and Jaguar have been swapping parts and ideas for a few years now.
    I'm told at one time, the XJ production line ran out of Jaguar badged electrical components, so they were given Ford ones to keep going .

    The whole Ford setup is very complicated with all the part sharing and composite motor ownership that goes on.
    I was told that the new Falcon V8 will be the (not quite released) Jaguar 5 litre!

    Some how, I don't think the Indians know who much of a mess this really is.

    If you look at this new LR2, it shares a platform with Ford and Volvo, and so it goes
    Agreed, not quite as easy as just sticking a Tata badge on the front and driving off. Would be similar to the ford- volvo union and the gm- saab union and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMcGr View Post
    I'm not surprised


    If you look at this new LR2, it shares a platform with Ford and Volvo, and so it goes


    Nothing unusual there. Focus/Mazda 3/Volvo (small one) share the same platform. And this will continue in the motor industry, as it becomes too expensive to create niche vehicles for particular markets.
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