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stevo68 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...016/08/768.jpg
Whoo whoo whoo, some people are really showing some "poor is me" type attitudes. If some people actually read the context of what I have written, they may understand where I am coming from. My main point in any of this, is if you don't like what you are doing, want to have a better lifestyle...then do something about it. Don't whinge and moan about how tough it is for you or those around you. Stevo
Did you read my post carefully or did you just quote it?
Have you read a couple of my other posts in other threads where I advised people not to draw conclusions about my personal circumstances based on arguments I present?
Why do you assume the information in the post you quoted is about me?
By your logic that would make me a nurse, a childcare worker, a teacher, a member of Apex and Lions, a Scout leader, a sports coach etc. Sorry, but I'm not superman.
Don't assume this is some "poor is
me" comment.
Some of us are capable of seeing things from someone else's point of view.
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stevo68 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...016/08/768.jpg
Talk about "tall poppy" syndrome coming through loud and clear. What because someone who has taken risks to become successful in their chosen area, should be thankful to someone who has kept society functioning? Does that include a doctor on $200k+ a year? Or somebody who runs a cleaning business turning over $1mill a year in his business? Should the owners of business ( private/SME's provide the majority of jobs to average Austalians), who have taken a risk to put themselves on the line, who provide a livelihood to others, should they also be thanked. Nah, of course not.
The only "tall poppies" I remember cutting down were the spivs, CEO's on obscene salaries and foreign currency dealer and I think I even conceded that we might need some of them.
Which part of my post was an attack on doctors and cleaners or indeed on anyone?
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Following the notion that " gee what Stevo said, should go make more $$$ doing something else" well the fact of the matter is that people don't. As mentioned earlier risk versus security. The average person would rather a weekly wage, holiday pay, sick pay etc and kudo's to them. A minority of people will take the risk of starting and running their own business in whatever field that maybe...a plasterer...a mechanic.....an accountant...doctor....etc etc. The average person doesn't want the stress or to push themselves. And there is nothing wrong with that, horses for courses, but don't complain about your own choices.
Who's complaining?
Did you miss the following paragraph from my earlier post?
Those people like nurses and people being paid a pittance in early childhood centres and similar jobs have made their choice just like the people for whom a six figure salary is the most important facet of the job. Both groups have to accept the consequences of their decision.
In the original version, the last sentence wasn't highlighted, but it was there just the same.
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stevo68 https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...016/08/768.jpg
And so what if someone on a high income gets the baby bonus, what they should be penalised because someone works in a lower paying position? Once again the good ol, why he/she getting something I should be getting? To be successful in anything takes time, energy, motivation, commitment ie successful parent, successful business person, successful employee, successful sportsperson etc etc. It just doesn't happen. For some of you, if you arent prepared to take those steps to better your own life...don't poo poo those that do.
I don't remember mentioning the baby bonus.
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For those that have this notion of the "less fortunate" what are your solutions, when was the last thing you did something about it for them...would you swap places? Actions speak louder than words, for the "woe is me" crowd all there has been is either self negative responses or gee that person earns that, and gee what would happen if this. How about solutions if you care so much, anyone can have a whinge thats the easy part. Why not sell your own home and as thanks to one of these people give them enough $$$ as a deposit. Thats putting your money where your mouth is.
I don't pretend to have solutions to all of society's problems, just as I suspect you don't have solutions to problems such as how we provide childcare, aged care, health, education and similar services at a cost the community can afford while paying employees in those occupations a salary that really reflects the value of their contribution to society.
This post (like most of my posts) is not about me, so I am not prepared to say precisely what I have done to make a contribution to society, except to say that I am satisfied that I have done what I could and my conscience is clear.
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Finally, I am thankful to people I come into contact with, who have helped me in certain situations. I think that is pretty normal. People who volunteer their time I think is brilliant, I don't have the time so I donate instead. The most important thing I have learnt is that what ever you do or are doing, it is a choice...again re iterating, average person, average intelligence, 2 arms, to legs ie has the opportunities that we all do. I know people who left school before high school, so lacked education, but wanted more for their own life and have been very successful in a range of industries. I also know people who I would call "educated derelicts" who have had every opportunity yet have gone no where.
Regards
Stevo
I said earlier that I wasn't complaining.
What I meant was that I was not complaining about my situation or about the "success" of others. After all we might not even agree about what constitutes success. Some people people might consider that it means earning enough to retire comfortably and ensure that your children are as well off as their peers.
Others might see success as raising a family of children who will be an asset to the world they will inherit.
However,if the only view of the world that someone has is, "I'm doing alright so there can't possible be anything wrong with the system", then I would complain about that person's attitude.
Actually I'm not sure that is true. I'm not sure that there would be any point in complaining. I think I would just be disappointed that they had such a limited outlook.
My original post was not about me.
I wrote it because a significant number of posts seemed to me to be espousing the idea that success was measured in terms of the size of your salary and the ability to service a mortgage.
It also seemed that a lot of the posts ignored the fact that some people have chosen careers that are not well paid but are essential for society to function.
It also seemed to be the consensus that the reason they were in poorly paid jobs was because they lacked drive.
I believe that a lot of nurses, to take just one example, have the intelligence and qualifications to work in more lucrative fields. I am grateful that they get sufficient satisfaction from knowing that they have made a difference to people's lives that they are prepared to continue to be part of the heath system that we all need.
Not everyone is concerned only with themselves. Some people can look at the system and say, "I'm doing OK, but I can see that others may not be."
