Thread: Sunrise asking should 4wd's be taxed?

Originally Posted by dobbo

Why not, whats stopping you? It's not as if they can take your licence of you is it? This is the general attitude and problem.

Licence the pushies, give people who need a 4wd for their land or their work a concession, ban tollroads and I would have no problem paying a premium

Strange and I am not showing my age hear but pushies had to be licenced in them old days when all was black and white. Well they were in the photos my old man and my Mum keep dragging out. "Back in My day"

Thanks
Bazz

How about an idiot tax then us landy owners wont have to worry about it .

Originally Posted by loanrangie

How about an idiot tax then us landy owners wont have to worry about it .

Some would think so

Originally Posted by dobbo

Why not, whats stopping you? It's not as if they can take your licence off you is it?

I think you will find that they can.

Our car washing fella got a fine for not wearing a helmet when riding a pushie. Didn't pay the fine and it escalated to the point where his drivers licence was cancelled . Had to pay the fine and late penalties before he could get his licence reinstated.

Classic example of losing your drivers licence for an offence committed while riding a bicycle.

Well, as far as the carbon foot print goes, I personally planted 142 tree's on the golf course last year, does that come off my total carbon footprint or just my car when I drive it to work?

One of the grounds man planted nearly twice that many and doesnt even own a car so can I buy carbon credits off him for say mars bars (which seems to be his fuel)?

In real terms, Hybrids in australia are a waste of time, theres too many hills and you tend to drive at higher speeds most of the time meaning that the engine is running a lot of the time.

I read an artical about a couple of uni studies done (and anyone who knows me will know what I think about stats and studies) on the Prius compared to the carolla in cost and fuel consumption and they found that in most cases with the council fleets (which would be pretty much thrashed a lot of the time) the prius were not viably more economical to run due to their high servicing costs as well as repair costs.

They did use less fuel but not a huge amount, one of the councils were recording an average of 7.4L/100kms from their prius fleet and 8.2l/100kms from the carolla's where if they were to use say the Diesel focus they would be looking at around 5 to 7 around town.

I read all this in a news letter/magazine at the Dr's and hopefully someone may be able to find where it came from, (probably something to do with Casey council as thats where we are and was called something like the cost of our enviroment or something like that), otherwise take from it what you want.

I think that they should tax anyone who drives into the city everyday regardless of the vehical and put the money into the public transport system but as far as melb goes, they need to fix the pub trans system first as it cant cope with the amount of travelers already.

This is probably due to the fact that I used to have to drive down the Monash everyday in traffic that was chockers full of Mercs and Beemas with only one person talking on their mobile while changing lanes without indicating trying to get there faster, I think they could afford to be taxed a couple more bucks to drive to work if they needed to and the rest of us wouldnt notice another couple of bucks 2 or 3 times a year on the toll road toll and if you cant afford to pay for it then drive to the outer burbs and take the train, tram or bus the rest of the way, which could then be made cheaper as it could be offset from the people who do want to pay for the right to drive in.

It would save on roads infrastructure as well as carbon blah blah and would reduce smog as well.

but it wont happen as the people with the money and the say in this sort of thing dont like to be separated from their money or their prestige cars lol

I think we should all start the BAN THE PRIUS movement, that would make much more sense

Originally Posted by BigJon

I think you will find that they can.

Our car washing fella got a fine for not wearing a helmet when riding a pushie. Didn't pay the fine and it escalated to the point where his drivers licence was cancelled . Had to pay the fine and late penalties before he could get his licence reinstated.

Classic example of losing your drivers licence for an offence committed while riding a bicycle.

There was a bloke in Mansfield who lost his licence for riding a horse while drunk......lost his licence for 3 months

All I can say was he wasnt happy about it.

So what is the boundry, the CBD, what??

Baz.

If we use the figures by CNW Motoring Research for the Dust to Dust energy costs of a range of vehicles the Prius does extremely poorly at $3.24 per lifetime mile while in the same survey the Jeep Wrangler consumed only $0.60 per lifetime mile which was even better than the Toyota Corolla which was calculated at $0.73 per lifetime mile.

According to that study, if we want to be energy efficient and reduce our carbon footprint - we should all be driving Jeep Wranglers.

Originally Posted by dobbo

When was the last time you saw a road tax sticker on a pushbike? Yet they have the same rights as other folks do in road going vehicles.

Originally Posted by solmanic

No they don't - you can't ride them on freeways.

Yes you can, at least in Sydney - what is worse in NSW we have to pay a toll to use many of the motorways and the pushbikes get their own lanes for free!

Diana