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    Driving w headlights

    During daylight hours I drive with my parkers on almost all the time (esp this time of year). I just discovered that Mr. Copper might not be too happy with this arrangement - It seems that they think they can ping you for doing this.

    So I'm thinking of installing the Narva daytime running lamps which run the low beams at 70% power all the time, unless someone who knows the Vic rules can tell me about headlight laws please.

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    I admit, when I do long drives I leave my low beam on. I consider it courtesy to other drivers, as my lights arent glare(ish), but allow identification from much further off...

    cheers!

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    The motor cycle industry was (is?) against it and has been for sometime. See Inquiry into Motorcycle Safety in Victoria and Motorcycle Council of NSW - Daytime Running Lights
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    Why don't you just leave your low beam on?
    Why do you need it to be 70%?

    I drive with my low beam lights on all the time as my Disco is dark grey and blends in with the road.

    Telstra vehicles used to have their low beam wired so it came on with the ignition. Probably still do.

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    G'day Folks

    In the 70's and 80's all Volvos had their park/tail wired to the ign switch, and all motorcycles had to have headlight/Ign wired on, it is also on all posties bikes, I think it would just be a copper

    It is a proven fact that a light in daytime can be a better indicator of distance/speed than an unlit vehicle.

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    Implementing DRL on my P38A is a simple software change I can do at home with my Rovacom
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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post
    The motor cycle industry was (is?) against it and has been for sometime. See Inquiry into Motorcycle Safety in Victoria
    Without being picky, that article is only directed toward the daytime lights on the bike. Most of it represents visibility of the bike to others, for reasons that do not apply to cars (like size, maneuverability, etc). However some of the intensity parts are relevant, and cut-off angles have alot to do with it.

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by beforethevision View Post
    Without being picky, that article is only directed toward the daytime lights on the bike. Most of it represents visibility of the bike to others, for reasons that do not apply to cars (like size, maneuverability, etc). However some of the intensity parts are relevant, and cut-off angles have alot to do with it.

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    Read the second link which refers to bikes being "lost in a sea of lights"

    There is some concern that if cars are fitted with DRLs that motorcycles will be lost in a `sea of lights' increasing the number Sorry Mate I Didn't See You (SMIDSY) crashes where drivers miss seeing a motorcycle
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    I drive with my lights (low beam) on almost all the time and have for many years. Most, if not all, EU countries mandate DRLs during the winter months. Research in Switzerland has shown that driving with lights on during the day decreases accidents by 30%. The research compared similar Cantons with mandatory and non-mandatory DRLs.

    DRLs increase visibility in all conditions and it is a mistake to think that on a clear sunny day it makes no difference. It does. Especially when driving into the sun oncoming traffic is significantly more visible with DRLs. The rear end of a car in front of you is more visible as well.

    The high contrast of light and shadow on tree-lined country roads hides a lot of cars and DRLs do help significantly. Not to mention on dusty tracks.

    AFAIK there are no rules against DRLs, however there are rules governing the use of fog lights and driving (incl. high beam) lights.

    Getting lost in sea of lights? Lets get real here. Any light or lights moving through traffic regardless whether there is a 'sea of lights' or not will attract attention. Those who claim the excuse of not seeing a motorbike probably should not be driving in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncleHo View Post
    It is a proven fact that a light in daytime can be a better indicator of distance/speed than an unlit vehicle.
    and the "proven" facts are to be found where ?
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