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Pete
After reading the comments in this thread below (and in particular "Potta's" comment) - It made me think about all the people who have informed me of my absolute stupidity in buying a new Land Rover.
My question is this - was there some particular models or time frame when Land Rovers were particularly unreliable? (Lets hope the answer isn't 1948-2008!)
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Few of us have been defending the Landies!
Pete
I think LRA's biggest problem is not Reliability, BUT the LACK of Dealers across this country, getting your service and warranty work done when the nearest dealer is maybe a 1000klms away will keep LRA at the bottom of the heap, till the problem is solved.
I live on the South coast of NSW in a small town, within a short drive (3 to 25klms) of my home there is a Ford, Holden, Nissan, Toyota, Kia, Mitsubishi dealerships and Service centres, the closest LRA Dealer is 2hrs West or 3 hours North and I live in the most densley populated area of Australia, Regards Frank.
ok, according to them troopy's have a reputation of being bullet-proof (that who started or you get where?) and landrovers have one of being unreliable???? also, where does that reputation come from or where did it start??? (i would say toyota owners) Mate, give me my fender any day above a troopy, not that i dislike toyota's or nissans - each to his own - but this unreliability stuff gets me going. As we all know each brand has it's problems, it's just that they (toyota and nissan) have to shout louder about our "problems" so they can sleep easier and keep the focus off their own failures.
Go the fenders Scollops - you got a weapon there, so sleep easy, and you're definately not stupid, you just know what you want and what will do the job for you the best way.
Now relax and go enjoy your trip!!!!!![]()
Purely on the "devil you know" criterion, I'd be telling that guy to keep the Troopy. Also, the guy who posted that he was considering getting rid of his troopy and buying a Defender becasue he has a baby on the way needs to be told that Deffies don't have babyseat brackets.
I love my Defender and would never advise anyone to get a Troopy but I'm honest enough to admit that none of my criteria for choosing LR are practical, rational or even socially acceptable
1: Have always likes Landies since a kid. Just like 'em. And i love it when people can't understand why.
2. Don't want a Japanese vehicle. Ever.
3. Don't want the same car everybody else has.
4. HM the Queen has Defenders and so did the Queen Mother.
Troopies are good vehicles. Luckily the new wagon doesn't have the second fuel tank or I'd be sorely sorely tempted (except for item 2 above). What you save on fuel in a Defender you spend on parts.
In the 90's when I was in the Military, we had (in our unit) four Troop carriers and four 110 Land Rovers.
If I drove around Sydney I'd use the Troopie, when we went out in the bush, the 110, ALWAYS! The troop carrier was a rough b*stard of a thing!
As for reliability, the only Land Rovers we every had that we trouble, thirsty with a terrible range, were those horrid SIII 6 cylinder petrol ones. Given a choice, back then, I'd find a SIIa instead!
Look I believe LR had question-able reliability issues right up until, 2005 until the D3 & RRS was released. The D3 and RRS are proving to be very reliable compared to the Jap trucks. However until now LR has never been seriously able to match the japs in the reliability stakes.
So it's a bit hard to change peoples view of LR reilability on their track record over the past 40 years compared to the last 3 years, 2005, 2006 & 2007.
A lot of people tried the product in the 70's, 80's & 90's and to be really honest they were let down by it. So that's why today you still have " LR are crap would never own one again". That monkey is going to take a long time to shake, but at least I reckon LR has turned the corner. Just my 2 cents worth.
Last edited by ak; 14th May 2008 at 11:43 AM. Reason: spelling
As the top gear footage says.... Over 70% of land rovers ever made are still on the road today.
And the best bit said is ....... A Land Rover won't be seen collecting an Oscar .Instead it will be far to busy doing something important ..
Can you feel the passion people.
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