Heart vs. Head? (Defender or Rubicon?)

Pulled a broken and bogged Rubicon off stockton last weekend.
Need I say More.
My 95 fender breaks but still gets home.:)

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Originally Posted by EchiDna

:D I love it!

never bought a new car myself and highly unlikely to ever do so either...

like others, I'll be keeping my 110 4BD1 until it's beyond repair or diesel is no longer available or my son inherits it!

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Same here.

John

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Originally Posted by DirtyDawg

Go on buy a jeep then join another forum and whine about the landrovers you had.....jeesh..:wallbash:

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Keeping the Disco and I'm not parting with my SII.

"Rusty, old, drafty and cold":p::p

u would have to give the jeep a 4inch lift to get the same clearance as a defender .have u seen how low the under body sits and then u might as well go buy a patrol with the poor drive position in it. some thing only land rover owners can boast about .its good seeing more than just a bonnet and the sky when your off road .go with what the heart tells you .ps dont ever use the word JEEP on this forum again

Heart 9 ; Head 7

I thought this thread would generate some passion!! Thanks all. :)

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Originally Posted by Sleepy

If only I could convince my lease company that a 20year old county is a worthwhile investment ;) I would get myself an isuzu and join you.:D:D:D(Couple of nice ones for sale at the moment!) Damn rules don't let me get anything over 8 yo.:mad:

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The heart can outweigh the financial benefit of the lease - if the heart is strong enough :)

anyway, I would have thought a cheaper vehicle with low(ish) running costs would be finanically better for you than a dirty great big lease on a monthly basis? different story if you need a loan for the purchase, but a cash purchase should make for extra dollars in your pocket each month? somewhere I've got a spreadsheet that calculates it, but from memory unless the vehicle on lease is costing more than about 1.2k per month, you are better off buying cheaper cars with cash. Even a $10k 110 on a loan would be hard pressed to cost you that much inclusive of fuel and servicing costs unless you drive 150km per day!!

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Originally Posted by EchiDna

The heart can outweigh the financial benefit of the lease - if the heart is strong enough :)

anyway, I would have thought a cheaper vehicle with low(ish) running costs would be finanically better for you than a dirty great big lease on a monthly basis? different story if you need a loan for the purchase, but a cash purchase should make for extra dollars in your pocket each month? somewhere I've got a spreadsheet that calculates it, but from memory unless the vehicle on lease is costing more than about 1.2k per month, you are better off buying cheaper cars with cash. Even a $10k 110 on a loan would be hard pressed to cost you that much inclusive of fuel and servicing costs unless you drive 150km per day!!

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I travel about 150km per day with a definite saving on fuel and servicing. I have also found the residual of my previous 110 was fantastic - came out 3K above payout figure and I hope to get a good price for my 3yo 90. (This is also worth considering in my quandry as I have no idea of how well the J**P holds its value).
Good point though - I love the isuzu countys - I'll crunch the figures again and see what happens.

With a lease the distance is what makes the difference. Half my costs are running costs. AS for that 8 year rule can you do an associate lease? I plan to make my next lease an associate lease so it can be older that 10 years at the end.
Salesmen can realy ruin the entire game. I test drove an ss crewman and the crewman cross 8. Bloodly salesman spent the entire time playing with every storage hole like he was trying to tempt me. Made me want to hit him.

I wish I were in the market for a new 4by.

Does the Jeep come with an auto gearbox?

If so, it would notch up higher than the Defender, which is manual only.

However, I think that a 6 speed manual gearbox will still be better than a 4 speed auto for a diesel because it's got such a narrow rev band of usable torque.

3 things I like about the Rubicon 1) F and R locking diffs 2) Danna 44s at both ends 3) the availability of aftermarket. What I do not like has already been mentioned.
The Rubicon only comes in petrol - Do not know about trans options though.